2012/8/16 Fons Adriaensen <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 04:12:58AM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > >> On 16 August 2012 03:46, Fons Adriaensen <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:25:05AM +0800, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > >> >> It is a new 'upstream' that we can rely on for running our GNU/Linux >> >> systems. It so happens that this time it's a core part of the system >> >> that's being 'standardised'. If you're not a fan of freedesktop.org, >> >> then I'm afraid that's a religious position you choose to take. >> > >> > That is completely upside down. Blindly accepting truth 'fom above'. >> > in this case freedesktop.org, is a religious attitude. Refusing >> > to do that certainly is not. >> >> Sorry, I do not recall anyone blindly accepting any kind of truth. > > See above: "It is a new 'upstream' that we can rely on". > > s/upstream/god/ > > Haven't seen anything as close to blind faith as that recently. > Fellow upstream means: 1. Different distro join in effort to do one thing. Maybe systemd is indeed complex then initscript. Add If Arch is the only maintainer, the effort will be high. But the reality is all distro use systemd can debug it and improve it so Arch only need someting like a packager. 2. Services files will be upstreamd to their package, ie. networkmanager provide its own networkmanager.services file which can be used by all distro. So this is why Arch try to follow upstream as close as possible. Leon > Ciao, > > -- > FA > > A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. > It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris > and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) >