On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> It is a new 'upstream' that we can rely on for running our GNU/Linux >> systems. It so happens that this time it's a core part of the system >> that's being 'standardised'. If you're not a fan of freedesktop.org, >> then I'm afraid that's a religious position you choose to take. > > That is completely upside down. Blindly accepting truth 'fom above'. > in this case freedesktop.org, is a religious attitude. Refusing > to do that certainly is not. You might think you're being sarcastic. But no, you are correct. Arch Linux is religious to upstreams. Arch tries to patch software as little as possible. When necessary, patches are applied only temporarily and sent to upstreams to make sure the software works on Arch. systemd is one step closer in that direction: vanilla systemd already does most of the Arch-specific init logic which is currently shipped in the "initscripts" package, and probably does it better. Upstream packages like postfix, udisks, smartmontools etc. already include systemd service files, so Arch developers don't need to maintain their own scripts. This means less fragmentation between Linux distribution and less maintenance burden on Arch developers. If you're looking for a distribution that's hell-bent on doing their own stuff to the detriment of upstreams, please try Ubuntu. Regards, Marti
