On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 01:17 +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:05:25 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Until now even this isn't an issue, since AFAIK only GNOME for Arch > > insists on pulseaudio. But this might change. People for good reasons > > chose some distro. > > I think if Gnome has a hard dependency on PA, there isn't anything Arch > can do about it... Patching upstream sources isn't the Archway... > Otherwise it ought to be an optdepend, but making it optional it it's > needed by a package would probably be a bad idea... > > Seems to me that either you need to stop using Gnome, or write the > needed patches to make PA optional. I guess a 3:rd option would be to > fix what is broken in PA...:) > > Let's hope Arch stays the way it was, where more or less everything is > optional and you can design your own system exactly as you want it! When GNOME2 switched to 3 I stopped using GNOME. Hats off! Somebody maintained https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=48718 for a long time! Btw. I suspect that I benefit of systemd side effects. Could it be that now, each time a new kernel or kernel-rt is installed, the vbox modules are build, regarding to a side effect of systemd? Or has this nothing to do with systemd? I wish to be allowed to be a dummy using Linux. If I would like to be an expert, I could chose any other obscure OS. Linux shouldn't become non-transparent, even not for noobs. At the moment pulseaudio seems no issue for any distro, as long as we avoid to use GNOME or GDM. For systemd it might be different, perhaps there aren't issues, but without systemd there aren't issues for me. So, if I read systemd is from Mr. X, as pulseaudio is too, I'm horrified. Getting rid of PA is easy, once you know what to do, but it also was easy to get PA (like a disease) without a warning, just by upgrading GNOME for one and the other distro. It's no fun, when that happens at the most bad possible moment. I don't want my Linux PC become as faulty as my iThingy.
