On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:30:09 +0200 Tom Gundersen <teg@xxxxxxx> wrote: > This is a misrepresentation. Udev and systemd were merged I think > mainly because they "belong together", but also because they had > cyclic build dependencies as they are very tightly integrated. It is > not the case that systemd swallows anything it shares code with, in > fact some stuff is being pushed into util-linux away from systemd. I keep seeing this "quote" on the net, is it not accurate? "Sievers explained that it will still be possible to install udev independently of systemd. He added that this option will be supported in the long term because separate builds are required to ensure that initrds (initial ramdisks), which don't include systemd, work correctly. Distributions that don't use systemd can continue to build udev as before, but will have to use the systemd sources." --- Joakim