Hi, Am 22.07.2012 22:26, schrieb Fons Adriaensen: > Simple example: I didn't have consolekit for some years, and I don't > care about whatever it has to offer. Recent updates of xdm have pulled > it in. So far it hasn't done anything evil except being useless and > consuming system resources (50 or so threads). Same about polkit, it's > pulled in only as a depency of gconf which in turn is only there because > the Emacs package wants it. But this does not have anything to do with the recent proposal / change of the "rc.conf" and the split up coming along with this. So you shouldn't mix things up here. Am 22.07.2012 22:26, schrieb Fons Adriaensen: > How much more of this useless stuff is going > to be added without any way to opt out in the future ? I can perfectly > understand that those things could be useful on a typical bloated consumer > desktop. You are always free to change the PKGBUILD. The really easy packaging system Arch is providing is a real advantage over any other distribution I've seen so far. What do you expect the maintainer of these packages to do anyway? In order to provide useful packages for the majority of people they have to pull this things in, there is just no way around it. Of course you could complain directly upstream, but in general there are good reasons why they make use of things Polkit and ConsoleKit. Otherwise each and every program would have to implement the functionalities these packages provide for them self, which would be even worse. I think the key here is to accept these things as necessary and don't bother too much about them. Best regards, Karol Babioch
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