On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 02:52:49PM -0500, Leonid Isaev wrote: > > > I wonder why everyone thinks that Archlinux is about a single config > file... > > It is the same myth as "Arch is faster than distro XYZ" or the "simple > BSD > > init". > > A single config file or a few of them won't matter. As long as you can > stay in control without having to waste time bypassing or removing things > that you don't need but that are pulled in as dependencies of something > you do need. > Simple example: I didn't have consolekit for some years, and I don't > care about whatever it has to offer. Recent updates of xdm have pulled > it in. So far it hasn't done anything evil except being useless and > consuming system resources (50 or so threads). Same about polkit, it's > pulled in only as a depency of gconf which in turn is only there because > the Emacs package wants it. How much more of this useless stuff is going > to be added without any way to opt out in the future ? I can perfectly > understand that those things could be useful on a typical bloated consumer > desktop. But they shouldn't be required unless you install such a thing. > Systemd is similar, whatever it has to offer (e.g. on-demand running of > services) I prefer to do without, just because that is simpler and without > any doubt more secure. > > This seems to be the single greatest reason against changing how things are done > > Arch is about hackability and upstream compliance. AFAICT this is not > going > > away. Besides, archlinux users should be experienced enough to manage 5 > config > > files instead of 1. So if there is a single technical argument to use > systemd > > syntax standard, it should overweigh 10 aesthetic predespositions. > > So far I have not seen any really technical arguments, whatever has > been presented as such is as questionable as any 'aesthetic' ones. > > Ciao, > > -- > FA > > A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. > It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris > and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow) > >
