On 07/10/2012 08:37 PM, Ray Kohler wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Karol Babioch <karol@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm about to set up a new machine and want to make use of systemd. >> Currently I'm reading up on the topic as systemd changes quite a lot of >> things. >> >> Just recently I've realized that ConsoleKit is not maintained actively >> anymore and the focus is on systemd right now (see [1]). This is already >> mentioned in the wiki [2]. >> >> Unfortunately I couldn't find any statement as to whether Arch will >> follow along with this. I'm running GNOME right now and at least have >> two dependencies for ConsoleKit: gdm and gnome-session. >> >> I couldn't find anything in regard to this issue in the bug tracker, so >> I'm wondering whether there has been some discussion over that already? >> >> I know there have been some discussions about systemd in the past, but >> are there any definite plans to switch "completely" to systemd at some >> point in the future? It seems that the package "initscripts-systemd" is >> more or less on feature parity with "initscripts" already. >> >> The reason why I'm asking is that I don't think that this kind of >> "double tracked" approach we are currently following, will work very >> well in the long run, especially when systemd is superseding more and >> more other packages. >> >> Don't get me wrong: I'm really glad about the fact that Arch Linux is >> supporting systemd so well. By no means I want to depreciate the work >> you guys have done so far. I do absolutely think that we have to provide >> both solutions in order to provide a smooth upgrade path. But personally >> I think that at some point we have to make a choice - just for the sake >> of simplicity. Personally I would choose systemd ;). >> >> Best regards, >> Karol Babioch >> >> [1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/ >> [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ConsoleKit > > ConsoleKit and systemd's logind don't provide the same API, as far as > I know. So Arch has to wait for the upstreams of these projects (such > as GNOME) to re-implement the relevant functionality with logind > instead of ConsoleKit. It's not just a build-time decision distro > packagers get to make. > Gnome 3.4 already supports systemd but as well as consolekit. Some modules have this detection at runtime. We prefer to keep consolekit support until we cannot support it. -- Ionuț
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