On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 19:23 +0200, Karol Babioch wrote: > I'm wondering whether there has been some discussion over that already? IIRC not on that List. Some weeks ago I again mentioned that there's an annoying bug/feature for console-kit on Debian user mailing list. Somebody informed me about systemd-loginctl as a replacement. I didn't think about dependency issues, while I ogled to switch to system. There also was a link to a Fedora list: "We merged the upstream udev repository entirely into the systemd repository. There is no standalone upstream udev project anymore. [snip]" A lot of dependencies needs to be removed, so I'll wait until Arch, Debian and Ubuntu completely switched to systemd.