On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Karol Babioch <karol@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm about to set up a new machine and want to make use of systemd. > Currently I'm reading up on the topic as systemd changes quite a lot of > things. > > Just recently I've realized that ConsoleKit is not maintained actively > anymore and the focus is on systemd right now (see [1]). This is already > mentioned in the wiki [2]. > > Unfortunately I couldn't find any statement as to whether Arch will > follow along with this. I'm running GNOME right now and at least have > two dependencies for ConsoleKit: gdm and gnome-session. > > I couldn't find anything in regard to this issue in the bug tracker, so > I'm wondering whether there has been some discussion over that already? > > I know there have been some discussions about systemd in the past, but > are there any definite plans to switch "completely" to systemd at some > point in the future? It seems that the package "initscripts-systemd" is > more or less on feature parity with "initscripts" already. > > The reason why I'm asking is that I don't think that this kind of > "double tracked" approach we are currently following, will work very > well in the long run, especially when systemd is superseding more and > more other packages. > > Don't get me wrong: I'm really glad about the fact that Arch Linux is > supporting systemd so well. By no means I want to depreciate the work > you guys have done so far. I do absolutely think that we have to provide > both solutions in order to provide a smooth upgrade path. But personally > I think that at some point we have to make a choice - just for the sake > of simplicity. Personally I would choose systemd ;). > > Best regards, > Karol Babioch > > [1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/ > [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ConsoleKit ConsoleKit and systemd's logind don't provide the same API, as far as I know. So Arch has to wait for the upstreams of these projects (such as GNOME) to re-implement the relevant functionality with logind instead of ConsoleKit. It's not just a build-time decision distro packagers get to make.
