> Personally I'm not using neither gui file browser nor consolekit > session and make use of the group based permission because I know how > to handle things, and I can look up eventual barriers in my way > quickly and reliably enough. I mount usb drives manually and generally > lay hands on my system to keep things running, I mean, in a sane way. > This is the first time I hear that this way of treating things would > be discouraged, and I'm asking myself if this is just a sysadmin's > gripe and if it will be possible in the future. Let's say I'm pretty > sure it will be possible, since I guess I'm not the only one who > avoids these additional sources of errors aka. software layers like > ck/dbus/stuff. I left $certain-other-distro for some reason, and don't > want to be forced back on this layer cake again. > Since I started using Linux way back in the days of RedHat 5.2 there has been a massive amount of abstraction and obfuscation of even basic functions without easily found and understood (by me at least) explanation and/or how to make it work. Most of this is well done and sneaks past because it just works but there are some cases where substantial, from the end-user perspective, changes to relatively basic functions, like USB sticks, halt/reboot from within GUI. Of course "the Arch way" forbids a simple script within the package to fix these issues. mick
