On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Leonid Isaev <lisaev@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > OK, which update you are talking about? > > Shutdown problems probably come from upower. Your user would loose control of > external devices only if you were in the storage/disk groups. Adding youself to > these groups was your mistake, since unless you understand what you are doing, > you should let console-kit do the permission granting. In fact, on a modern > linux system you only have to be a member of 1 group: users. > > How do you start your desktop and do you have ck-launch-session running? > Personally I'm not using neither gui file browser nor consolekit session and make use of the group based permission because I know how to handle things, and I can look up eventual barriers in my way quickly and reliably enough. I mount usb drives manually and generally lay hands on my system to keep things running, I mean, in a sane way. This is the first time I hear that this way of treating things would be discouraged, and I'm asking myself if this is just a sysadmin's gripe and if it will be possible in the future. Let's say I'm pretty sure it will be possible, since I guess I'm not the only one who avoids these additional sources of errors aka. software layers like ck/dbus/stuff. I left $certain-other-distro for some reason, and don't want to be forced back on this layer cake again. Also reminds me of this morning's xorg-xdm bug report I wrote which made dbus on a system level necessary, all of a sudden... Things go on like this and I'll remove my Xorg and run frambuffer only from now on. :-) cheers! mar77i
