On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:24:13 -0500 Leonid Isaev <lisaev@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On (10/27/11 17:49), Mick wrote: > -~> Following yet another update that has disabled user control of USB > -~> sticks, cameras, etc. and blocked user from shutting down from the > -~> desktop (in my case xfce4), I am at the end of my tether. > -~> > -~> Is there some way to be fore-warned of these updates coming > online and -~> avoid them or be ready with clear info on how to > repair the damage they -~> are set to create. > -~> > -~> mick > > OK, which update you are talking about? I'm not sure, I usually run pacman -Syu about 3 weeks apart and there are usually many updates to apply. > > Shutdown problems probably come from upower. Your user would loose > control of external devices only if you were in the storage/disk > groups. Adding youself to these groups was your mistake, since unless > you understand what you are doing, you should let console-kit do the > permission granting. In fact, on a modern linux system you only have > to be a member of 1 group: users. I'm currently in the following groups: disk - not sure why lp - to get around printer problems wheel - the beginners guide insisted log - after an update destroyed my root GUI session locate - I had some reason, can't remember now http - facilitate editing of website video - don't know audio - couldn't play music until I added optical, storage no usbstick or cd/dvd access without it scanner camera - same thing with camera and scanner power - fixed a previous occurrence of this problem users - default wireshark - obvious > > How do you start your desktop and do you have ck-launch-session > running? ininttab runlevel 5 ==> xdm exec ck-launch-session startxfce4 This has been a frequently recurring problem since I first install Arch about feb 2009, and the solution has never been the same mick PS I apologize if my inherent paranoia is showing.