On (10/28/11 12:24), Mick wrote: -~> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:24:13 -0500 -~> Leonid Isaev <lisaev@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: -~> -~> > On (10/27/11 17:49), Mick wrote: -~> > -~> Following yet another update that has disabled user control of USB -~> > -~> sticks, cameras, etc. and blocked user from shutting down from the -~> > -~> desktop (in my case xfce4), I am at the end of my tether. -~> > -~> -~> > -~> Is there some way to be fore-warned of these updates coming -~> > online and -~> avoid them or be ready with clear info on how to -~> > repair the damage they -~> are set to create. -~> > -~> -~> > -~> mick -~> > -~> > OK, which update you are talking about? -~> I'm not sure, I usually run pacman -Syu about 3 weeks apart and there -~> are usually many updates to apply. -~> -~> > -~> > Shutdown problems probably come from upower. Your user would loose -~> > control of external devices only if you were in the storage/disk -~> > groups. Adding youself to these groups was your mistake, since unless -~> > you understand what you are doing, you should let console-kit do the -~> > permission granting. In fact, on a modern linux system you only have -~> > to be a member of 1 group: users. -~> -~> I'm currently in the following groups: -~> So, basically, you added your user to every group possible? -~> disk - not sure why You'd better figure it out. -~> lp - to get around printer problems -~> wheel - the beginners guide insisted Beginners' guide is not a bible. -~> log - after an update destroyed my root GUI session -~> locate - I had some reason, can't remember now Makes no sense, because your user must not touch update DB, it's the job for cron or occasionally root. -~> http - facilitate editing of website -~> video - don't know The same as for disk. -~> audio - couldn't play music until I added Totally wrong reason, since you have console-kit running. -~> optical, storage no usbstick or cd/dvd access without it Again, the reasoning makes no sense. -~> scanner camera - same thing with camera and scanner I have to check, but I don't think that you need to be a member of scanner unless you want to scan over a network. -~> power - fixed a previous occurrence of this problem Membership in power lets you hibernate/suspend (pm-utils), but not shutdown/reboot. You seem to have policykit issues. -~> users - default -~> wireshark - obvious -~> > -~> > How do you start your desktop and do you have ck-launch-session -~> > running? -~> ininttab runlevel 5 ==> xdm -~> -~> exec ck-launch-session startxfce4 -~> Do you have dbus in your DAEMONS, like this: DAEMONS=(syslog-ng microcode irqbalance cpufreq dbus...)? Otherwise xfce4 will not work. -~> This has been a frequently recurring problem since I first install Arch -~> about feb 2009, and the solution has never been the same -~> Because you have to clean your installation once in a while. I am quite surprised your system even booted. -~> mick -~> -~> PS I apologize if my inherent paranoia is showing. -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key ID: 164B5A6D Key fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D
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