2011/7/9 Ionut Biru <ibiru@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > On 07/09/2011 02:41 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: >> >> >>> >>> 8-| >>> did I just read that you're shipping snapshots of archlinux to users and >>> plan on updating them next year??? >>> >>> archlinux may not be the distro for you... >> >> The "users" just want to use the computer (like an apple user, they >> just "use" it) >> here a macbook is extremely expensive for them (about 4 times) the price >> of >> a notebook with celeron or atom. >> >> An atom/celeron/pentium based notebook here you can buy for US$550 and >> you pay it about US$50/month >> so almost every person can buy one. (320Gb disk, 1Gb memory, LED >> display 13 inches, bluetooth, wifi, camera). >> comes with W7 starter kit, or Linux Kde3 based. >> example===> http://tinyurl.com/3lbhq3x >> In windows it is very slow, with linux(that comes installed) is very >> outdated. >> >> Software: >> >> If I install ubuntu, it loads and works out of the box, but it is too >> closed. (I use FreeBSD and archlinux is the closest one) >> >> Archlinux have the makepkg that is wonderful, fast, reliable, small, >> easy to mantain the repo, the >> AUR is a good source of solution, and finally, the people on the >> Archlinux list is very skilled, and know what they >> are doing/saying... (Thank you all...). >> >> People here uses the computer (95%) for email, messenger, enter >> facebook, office package, movie/mp3 downloads. >> >> They want a computer that does not brake when a pen drive is inserted, >> they want to use wifi on the class, >> they love to start an "ad-hoc" network using wicd and exchange files >> between them, >> chat on the messenger, store/download movies and pictures from their >> cell phone... >> they love the way linux hibernates.. and wakes up days after.. They love >> to change users (system-> logout-> change user) >> >> For them, US$50 (the month payment) is a lot of money... usually 10% of >> the family income, with >> windows they have to "upgrade" (home start edition is useless), install >> "anti-virus".. (more money....) . and eventually >> have to pay (US$20) for a "cleanup", or install a very outdated XP >> (another US$50) >> Online gaming and "stunned" graphics games is a distant dream.. >> >> Some of them are using Archlinux for 2 years now without updating... (a >> notebook you cannot upgrade the hardware...) >> sometimes they mail me for a specific program (music editor...) or out >> of space message... make a new user (useradd...) >> sometimes they forget how to take a picture of the desktop, or resize a >> picture and send via email (using evolution).. >> or even create a new evolution account... they than go to a LAN-HOUSE, >> or "CYBER" and fire "pacman -Sy" , "pacman -S xxxx" >> for this they have to pay about US$10... they live far away and the >> only way of support is email, or chat... >> >> Another thing: they are very proud of using LINUX... they "feel" they >> are using a "better" solution... and not feel like "another brick on the >> wall" >> >> Archlinux is good also or that old "EEEPC" that have only a flash disk >> of 4Gb.... >> >> >> Thank you for Listening (your patience) and attention. >> >> Sergio >> > > nice to hear that arch do things in the way you like. That's the beauty of > using opensource software in general, that you can tweak it to meet your > needs. > > > -- > Ionuț > +1 to Sergio comments. Sometimes I talk to people about linux and first find it come to their mind is "oh, you use that... uhn.. Ubuntu?", like if it was the only linux distro available - normal thought for Windows-users. Then I show them Archlinux, this easy and highly customizable linux dristribution, and some times I convince them to change for it. I've got some success already. It's /\archlinux ruling in Brazil! :) Cheers, Rafael
