On Saturday, July 09, 2011 09:55:43 AM rafael ff1 wrote: > 2011/7/9 Ionut Biru <ibiru@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > On 07/09/2011 02:41 PM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: > >>> 8-| > >>> did I just read that you're shipping snapshots of archlinux to users > >>> and plan on updating them next year??? > >>> > >>> archlinux may not be the distro for you... > >> > >> The "users" just want to use the computer (like an apple user, they > >> just "use" it) > >> here a macbook is extremely expensive for them (about 4 times) the > >> price > >> of > >> a notebook with celeron or atom. > >> > >> An atom/celeron/pentium based notebook here you can buy for US$550 and > >> you pay it about US$50/month > >> so almost every person can buy one. (320Gb disk, 1Gb memory, LED > >> display 13 inches, bluetooth, wifi, camera). > >> comes with W7 starter kit, or Linux Kde3 based. > >> example===> http://tinyurl.com/3lbhq3x > >> In windows it is very slow, with linux(that comes installed) is very > >> outdated. > >> > >> Software: > >> > >> If I install ubuntu, it loads and works out of the box, but it is too > >> closed. (I use FreeBSD and archlinux is the closest one) > >> > >> Archlinux have the makepkg that is wonderful, fast, reliable, small, > >> easy to mantain the repo, the > >> AUR is a good source of solution, and finally, the people on the > >> Archlinux list is very skilled, and know what they > >> are doing/saying... (Thank you all...). > >> > >> People here uses the computer (95%) for email, messenger, enter > >> facebook, office package, movie/mp3 downloads. > >> > >> They want a computer that does not brake when a pen drive is inserted, > >> they want to use wifi on the class, > >> they love to start an "ad-hoc" network using wicd and exchange files > >> between them, > >> chat on the messenger, store/download movies and pictures from their > >> cell phone... > >> they love the way linux hibernates.. and wakes up days after.. They > >> love > >> to change users (system-> logout-> change user) > >> > >> For them, US$50 (the month payment) is a lot of money... usually 10% > >> of > >> the family income, with > >> windows they have to "upgrade" (home start edition is useless), > >> install > >> "anti-virus".. (more money....) . and eventually > >> have to pay (US$20) for a "cleanup", or install a very outdated XP > >> (another US$50) > >> Online gaming and "stunned" graphics games is a distant dream.. > >> > >> Some of them are using Archlinux for 2 years now without updating... > >> (a > >> notebook you cannot upgrade the hardware...) > >> sometimes they mail me for a specific program (music editor...) or out > >> of space message... make a new user (useradd...) > >> sometimes they forget how to take a picture of the desktop, or resize > >> a > >> picture and send via email (using evolution).. > >> or even create a new evolution account... they than go to a LAN-HOUSE, > >> or "CYBER" and fire "pacman -Sy" , "pacman -S xxxx" > >> for this they have to pay about US$10... they live far away and the > >> only way of support is email, or chat... > >> > >> Another thing: they are very proud of using LINUX... they "feel" > >> they > >> are using a "better" solution... and not feel like "another brick on > >> the > >> wall" > >> > >> Archlinux is good also or that old "EEEPC" that have only a flash disk > >> of 4Gb.... > >> > >> > >> Thank you for Listening (your patience) and attention. > >> > >> Sergio > > > > nice to hear that arch do things in the way you like. That's the beauty > > of using opensource software in general, that you can tweak it to meet > > your needs. > > > > > > -- > > Ionuț > > +1 to Sergio comments. > > Sometimes I talk to people about linux and first find it come to their > mind is "oh, you use that... uhn.. Ubuntu?", like if it was the only > linux distro available - normal thought for Windows-users. Then I show > them Archlinux, this easy and highly customizable linux dristribution, > and some times I convince them to change for it. I've got some success > already. It's /\archlinux ruling in Brazil! :) > > Cheers, > > Rafael Sadly, a lot of Ubuntu users assume all Linux is Ubuntu as well.
