On 28 November 2010 11:24, Yaro Kasear <yaro@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 11:17 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: >> On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 18:21 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote: >> > On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 08:18 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: >> > > Just don't use Gnome. Upstream is going to make Pulseaudio default. KDE >> > > as well, maybe. >> > > >> > I don't see KDE upstream doing that. They have Phonon. What's more, most >> > KDE apps today count on Phonon being there. KDE upstream won't do that >> > without expecting to break KDE. >> >> Admittedly my view on this is skewed, since I follow PA's development >> pretty closely, but one of the devs on PA (Colin Guthrie) has mentioned >> getting various patches he's done for Mandriva's KDE implementation such >> that KDE's mixer and such supports pulseaudio natively. Phonon would >> output directly to pulse in that case, I believe. >> > > The point of which would be what exactly? All due respect, Phonon is > already a sound daemon. To output sound through a sound daemon into > ANOTHER sound daemon, particularly one as poor as Pulse Audio, is > begging for latency and who knows how many other problems. > > And, again, it's redundant and unnecessary since Phonon's already a good > sound daemon on its own merits. In fact, it handles all my audio pretty well, and even lets JACK take over when needed without my intervention. There's no PulseAudio or a kill command in that equation. Anyway, Jan, everything works great, no troubles (with libpulse and without pulseaudio) on KDE. Good job.