On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 08:18 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Sat, 2010-11-27 at 12:09 -0600, Yaro Kasear wrote: > <snip FUD> > > > > I stated it before, but I'll say it here, I don't think Pulse Audio is > > right for [extra]. Compiz is a lot more stable and still manages to stay > > in [community]. Pulse goes down a lot and takes sound with it and it's > > getting put in [extra]? I'm not sure how this makes sense. > > > > And I strongly oppose any "default" usage of Pulse Audio the way Ubuntu > > or Fedora forces it on their users. It just doesn't work that well. > > Also, forgive me if I am wrong, but isn't that against the Arch way of > > doing things of just putting in a minimalist installation? I'd hate to > > see Pulse Audio get installed by default for anything, but as a part of > > the default Arch install I think is just an all around bad idea. > > > I'd suggest reading before posting. 'default' means nothing on Arch > (already mentioned), and Pulseaudio is not going to be 'default on your > Arch installation' (also already mentioned). > > Just don't use Gnome. Upstream is going to make Pulseaudio default. KDE > as well, maybe. > I don't see KDE upstream doing that. They have Phonon. What's more, most KDE apps today count on Phonon being there. KDE upstream won't do that without expecting to break KDE.