On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan <lists@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 06/27/2010 10:29 PM, Tobias Powalowski wrote: >> >> Am Sonntag 27 Juni 2010 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck: >>> >>> On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:16:58 +0800 >>> >>> Ray Rashif<schivmeister@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 27 June 2010 17:35, Dieter Plaetinck<dieter@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So, what? >>>>> we better include ppp and not wvdial? >>>> >>>> No, it will definitely help if it's included - you just have to make >>>> an exception and try to fit it in with the rest of the packages in >>>> src/core/pkg (ppp is already part of base, whereas wvdial is in >>>> extra). Perhaps a request to bring it into core in light of cases like >>>> this? >>> >>> Then probably we should move wvdial to core just like ie. pppoe stuff is >>> in core, no need for a special exceptions. And then we'd include it in >>> the package list for archiso. Having it in /src/core/pkg on the iso >>> will be a good sideeffect, not a primary goal. >>> I suggest someone who is into this stuff takes over, because I don't >>> really know what i'm talking about. >>> >>> Dieter >> >> Why to have a second app for dialing in core if ppp can handle already >> this >> stuff? >> >> Just my 2 cents. >> greetings >> tpowa > > PPP can be configured to dial, but one needs to be a super geek I think. > As I told you earlier, here in India, wvdial is supported officially, > because it automatically detects the required settings. Change Username, > Password and Phone Number. That's all, and you can have latest packages if > you do an FTP install. so it's just not clear _how_ to do it via ppp? if that's the case i'd say the info should be clarified/added to beginners guide and official installation guide, esp. the official since thats on any install disk. from beginners guide: [core] The simple principle behind [core] is to provide only one of each necessary tool for a base Arch Linux system; The GNU toolchain, the Linux kernel, one editor, one command line browser, etc. (There are a few exceptions to this. For instance, both vi and nano are provided, allowing the user to choose one or both.) not that everything is set in stone, ie. nano/vi, but if the problem is just a lack of documentation/understanding then we should just fix that. i have never needed to dial up (only ever had broadband), but the instructions there seem rather easy? C Anthony
