On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Sven-Hendrik Haase <sh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 26.10.2009 18:07, Piyush P Kurur wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:40:44AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:01 AM, <hollunder@xxxxxx> wrote: >>> >> >> [snip] >> >> >>>> So please, next time you call something integration, think beyond the >>>> bubble. In our little Linux world with limited developer time we need >>>> real integration, real solutions and still >>>> freedom of choice. >>>> >>> You read my mind. >> >> Mine too. I got burnt when after one of the xorg updates few months >> ago, the mouse and keyboard stopped working. The culprit, xorg >> unloading the mouse and keyboard drivers and waiting for hal to send >> some signals to load the appropriate drivers. This I think was >> ridiculous. Many a time I use X without any windomanager whatsoever >> mainly for display boards and such stuff. I dont need any PnP here. > > In this particular case though, you can just disable hotplugging (see > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_input_hotplugging). Please > realize that PnP can be a very nice feature for many users. HAL is > getting deprecated as has already been stated in this thread. Udev is > slowly taking over more and more tasks from HAL and at some point, HAL > will only be a wrapper for Udev calls for applications that still use > the old HAL calls. At least so I hope. This is true, but it seems trivial to only do the keyboard/mouse unload junk if hal is alive. I'm sure there's a way to test for this.
