On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:40:44AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:01 AM, <hollunder@xxxxxx> wrote: [snip] > > > > So please, next time you call something integration, think beyond the > > bubble. In our little Linux world with limited developer time we need > > real integration, real solutions and still > > freedom of choice. > > You read my mind. Mine too. I got burnt when after one of the xorg updates few months ago, the mouse and keyboard stopped working. The culprit, xorg unloading the mouse and keyboard drivers and waiting for hal to send some signals to load the appropriate drivers. This I think was ridiculous. Many a time I use X without any windomanager whatsoever mainly for display boards and such stuff. I dont need any PnP here. Regards ppk