Thanks guys for the help so far... Lets just pretend for a moment that I don't know much about Apache, pthreads or pre-forks in any specific detail... how would I find out what threading model is being used? Ulimit does return 10240 on the command line. Should I put the ulimit -s 2048 into the init.d script for httpd ? As a side project, I'm trying to get my basic SSL and LDAP config working in Collab.nets version of subversion, which includes an apache binary custom for them I believe. I think I almost have that working, so I plan to switch the system over to that, and see if the problem still occurs. If it does, then I may have an official support route to follow. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: Eric Covener [mailto:covener@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: 07 April 2009 01:50 To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Apache memory hog On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Sean Conner <spc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It was thus said that the Great Eric Covener once stated: >> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Adrian Marsh >> <Adrian.Marsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > Am trying MaxMemFree 30000 (30mb? - pure guess number). >> >> Far too large, it's per-thread. Try 1MB. > > This triggered something I recently learned---what threading model are you > using under Apache? Pre-fork? Or pthreads? I ask because pthreads will > allocate stack space for each thread, and the amount used is the default > mount allocated per stack per process: > > http://boston.conman.org/2007/11/05.1 > > Rather nasty shock when I found out. The wasted stack space doesn't shows up as a high VSZ, but not RSS. -- Eric Covener covener@xxxxxxxxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx