Re: [users@httpd] CNAME and A records not working?

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Boyle Owen wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: RYAN vAN GINNEKEN [mailto:luck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Mittwoch, 8. März 2006 05:23
To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [users@httpd] CNAME and A records not working?

Been rackin my brain on this one

First: Forget apache. You have to get DNS working properly before tackling the apache config. I presume all hostnames have to resolve to the same IP? So, work on the DNS config until this is so (test DNS using "nslookup" - not by typing the hostnames into a browser).
I think it is simple and has to be a redirect here is some of my tests

this is so! blazebartending.com is their main site www.blazebartending.com is a sitealias atest is an A record and ctest.blazebartending.com is a CNMAE that points to www.canmail.org but when i type ctest into my browser it takes me to the content that is setup in the apache vhost container. I guess this what i wanted NOT!!!!! but does make sense i think. at first i had no content infact no container so browser took me the first virtual host is my httpd.conf file. F*&k why did it used to work now it mostly makes sense that is dosent i gotta go to be it is after 4am here.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nslookup blazebartending.com
Server:  computerking.ca
Address:  192.168.0.202

Name:    blazebartending.com
Address:  68.144.188.169

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nslookup www.blazebartending.com
Server:  computerking.ca
Address:  192.168.0.202

Name:    blazebartending.com
Address:  68.144.188.169
Aliases:  www.blazebartending.com


C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nslookup mail.blazebartending.com
Server:  computerking.ca
Address:  192.168.0.202

Name:    mail.blazebartending.com
Address:  68.144.188.169


C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nslookup atest.blazebartending.com
Server:  computerking.ca
Address:  192.168.0.202

Name:    atest.blazebartending.com
Address:  68.144.188.169


C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>nslookup ctest.blazebartending.com
Server:  computerking.ca
Address:  192.168.0.202

Name:    www.canmail.org
Address:  68.144.188.169
Aliases:  ctest.blazebartending.com

Once you have DNS working reliably using nslookup, try the hostnames in a browser. If you still have problems, check your ServerName and ServerAlias directives in each VH. Post back if you need further help.

BTW, it would help if you posted real domain names - since this could be a DNS issue, it would be better if we could check it ourselves.

and when u do an nslookp u get the cname bit and i thought apache picked up on that

Strangeness abounds i solved the problem by adding an additional vhost to every site similar to below now everything works but it is weird. I do not quite understand cause i used to us cnames like further below and they worked fine on my freesbd box. Now that i am forced into using this fredora 3 machine not sure if the problem is related to os or not. Anyway to make things work i changed to an A record but then the www.canmail.org cannot be used and i have to use a raw ip so apache cannot guess that i want www.canmail.org right? Therefore i added the vhost with redirect and now things work. Puzzling me still is this the rest of my vhost work fine ie www.site, old.site and new.site just not when they are pointed to www.canmail.org. Hell even mail.computerking.ca CNAME shoematers.com works well not anymore cause i redirected it to www.canmail.org too. But it is a cname and it still works. but mail.blazebartending.com INCNAME www.canmail.org doesnt work until redirected. arrrgh i have been messing with this for 2 days and i like the cname solution better i make dns changes not sure if i have to wait

i cloud go one and one so many angles to the dangle help it works but am still not happy

<VirtualHost *:80>

       ServerAdmin admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
       ServerName mail.blazebartending.com
       ErrorLog logs/blazebartending.com-error_log
       CustomLog logs/blazebartending.com-access_log common
       Redirect permanent / http://www.canmail.org/

</VirtualHost>


mail.computerking.ca.           IN CNAME        shoemasters.com.



Rgds,
Owen Boyle
Disclaimer: Any disclaimer attached to this message may be ignored.
I have a vhost in apache called host1.com it have a serveralias of www.host1.com. I used to use a DNS CNAME for the www.host1.com and then create another virtual host for that too. So i had 2 virtual host containers for almost every site seems a bit cleaner and more sensible to just omit the CNAME in DNS and add a serveralias in apache. This save me the bother of maintaining another entire virtual host container for each site. Is one more correct than the other they both seem to work ok but it is kinda confusing. Note host1.com and www.host1.com point to the same server and the same content all work well. Anyway here is my problem There is also another record in my DNS named mail.host1.com it points to a different vhost named www.mail.portal.org also on the same server. I am using www.mail.portal.org as a email portal for several sites so i added CNAMES to the DNS for these sites like so

mail.host1.com    IN CNAME     www.mail.portal.com

this does not seem to work  so i tried an A record

mail.host1.com   IN A    123.123.123.123

this does not seem to work either apache seems to pick up the connection but it takes me to the first virtual host listed in the httpd.conf file host.com. I need apache to accept the connection and redirect me www.mail.portal.com. Why doenst this work i have a similar setup on a different server and i works fine with CNAMES could it be the serveralias thingy as i do not use it on the other server the one that works.


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