Some interesting points William. > Could Sun/HP/IBM/RedHat develop a curriculum/certification > for complete server administration, including Apache? I > suspect they not only could, but currently do have some > credentials around Server Administration - which must > include dns, sendmail, httpd and the dozens of other > services which must be locked down. Well, I thought a 'real' apache web server was supposed to be a dedicated machine, not running other services that you mention above. So that would imply a minimal system, only running the Apache daemon, and nothing else that is not required to support the web server. This machine would be made as secure as possible, and regular security updates applied. There are dozens of other services that need to be locked down securely, but I do not see what relevance they have in running a dedicated web server. Maybe I'm missing something somewhere? Regards Keith In theory, theory and practice are the same; In practice they are not. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The official User-To-User support forum of the Apache HTTP Server Project. See <URL:http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html> for more info. To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx " from the digest: users-digest-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx