So for example using the default "event" mpm values (http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/conf/extra/httpd-mp m.conf.in) below in Apache then PHP-FPM would be the same ... StartServers 3 -> pm.start_servers = 3 MinSpareThreads 75 -> pm.min_spare_servers = 75 MaxSpareThreads 250 -> pm.max_spare_servers = 250 MaxRequestWorkers 400 -> pm.max_requests = 400 I am not seeing any PHP-FPM equiv settings for ... ThreadsPerChild 25 MaxConnectionsPerChild 0 Correct? On 1/12/16 3:41 PM, "Rich Bowen" <rbowen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >On 01/12/2016 02:26 PM, Rose, John B wrote: >> Is there a guide to properly matching your apache and PHP-FPM configs? >> >> Looking here Š >> >> https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHP-FPM >> >> >I am not seeing that information >> > >php-fpm is documented in the PHP docs at >http://php.net/manual/en/install.fpm.php I'm far from an expert on it, >but the rule would be that if you're proxing from A to B, then B needs >to be able to handle as much traffic as A is forwarding to it. So I'd >expect that what you want is at least as many servers/workers/threads on >the php-fpm end as you are likely to proxy from the httpd end. > >--Rich > >> On 1/12/16 2:03 PM, "Rich Bowen" <rbowen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 01/12/2016 01:58 PM, Rose, John B wrote: >>>> Can you elaborate on this a bit? >>>> >>>> "..the server pool is smaller than Apache's server pool, causing >>>> too much thrashing. (See the pm.min_spare_servers and so on)" >>> >>> >>> Sure. The way that php-fpm works is that there's a php-fpm daemon, and >>> requests for whatever.php are proxypass'ed over to it. So there must be >>> at least as many threads over on the php-fpm side as you have active >>> over on the httpd side, or there will be thrash in creating those >>> threads when the time comes. >>> >>> So basically you need to line up the php-fpm config with your httpd >>> config, or at least have more threads on the fpm side. >>> >>> pm.min_spare_servers (and max_spare and start_servers) are php-fpm >>> configurations, which you'll find somewhere in /etc/php-fpm.d or >>> whatever your particular distro calls it. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/12/16 12:20 PM, "Rich Bowen" <rbowen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 01/11/2016 04:51 PM, Rose, John B wrote: >>>>>> After switching to mod_php from php-fpm we are told the site is >>>>>> working >>>>>> 4x faster using mod_php instead of php-fpm. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any explanation? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The cynic in me things that this is a case of old dogs being >>>>>unwilling >>>>> to learn new tricks. >>>>> >>>>> Other things that come to mind is that fpm is grossly misconfigured - >>>>> perhaps they allocated insufficient memory to it? Or are running it >>>>>on >>>>> another machine that has a faulty network connection between them? Or >>>>> possibly the server pool is smaller than Apache's server pool, >>>>>causing >>>>> too much thrashing. (See the pm.min_spare_servers and so on) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> From: William A Rowe Jr <wrowe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> <mailto:wrowe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>> Reply-To: "users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" >>>>>> <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>> Date: Saturday, January 9, 2016 1:58 PM >>>>>> To: "users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" >>>>>> <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Circumstances when mod_php would run >>>>>>faster >>>>>> than PHP-FPM? >>>>>> >>>>>> Mod_proxy_fcgi + php-fpm or mod_fcgid with php fcgi sapi should both >>>>>> be >>>>>> equivalent when tuned correctly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your only option for running php in process efficiently is to use >>>>>>the >>>>>> non-threadsafe php in the httpd preform module. Your only option >>>>>>for >>>>>> running httpd efficiently is the event, or at least the worker mpm. >>>>>> >>>>>> Since usually only a subset of the http requests are to a php >>>>>> resource, >>>>>> the answer is almost always 'no'. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 8, 2016 16:48, "Rose, John B" <jbrose@xxxxxxx >>>>>> <mailto:jbrose@xxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Apache 2.4 >>>>>> >>>>>> On the same system, same web site, are there circumstances when >>>>>> Apache using mod_php would run faster than Apache using PHP-FPM? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@xxxxxxxxxxx - @rbowen >>>>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@xxxxxxxxxxx - @rbowen >>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > >-- >Rich Bowen - rbowen@xxxxxxxxxxx - @rbowen >http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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