On 01/12/2016 02:26 PM, Rose, John B wrote: > Is there a guide to properly matching your apache and PHP-FPM configs? > > Looking here Š > > https://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHP-FPM > > I am not seeing that information > php-fpm is documented in the PHP docs at http://php.net/manual/en/install.fpm.php I'm far from an expert on it, but the rule would be that if you're proxing from A to B, then B needs to be able to handle as much traffic as A is forwarding to it. So I'd expect that what you want is at least as many servers/workers/threads on the php-fpm end as you are likely to proxy from the httpd end. --Rich > On 1/12/16 2:03 PM, "Rich Bowen" <rbowen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> >> On 01/12/2016 01:58 PM, Rose, John B wrote: >>> Can you elaborate on this a bit? >>> >>> "..the server pool is smaller than Apache's server pool, causing >>> too much thrashing. (See the pm.min_spare_servers and so on)" >> >> >> Sure. The way that php-fpm works is that there's a php-fpm daemon, and >> requests for whatever.php are proxypass'ed over to it. So there must be >> at least as many threads over on the php-fpm side as you have active >> over on the httpd side, or there will be thrash in creating those >> threads when the time comes. >> >> So basically you need to line up the php-fpm config with your httpd >> config, or at least have more threads on the fpm side. >> >> pm.min_spare_servers (and max_spare and start_servers) are php-fpm >> configurations, which you'll find somewhere in /etc/php-fpm.d or >> whatever your particular distro calls it. >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/12/16 12:20 PM, "Rich Bowen" <rbowen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/11/2016 04:51 PM, Rose, John B wrote: >>>>> After switching to mod_php from php-fpm we are told the site is >>>>> working >>>>> 4x faster using mod_php instead of php-fpm. >>>>> >>>>> Any explanation? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The cynic in me things that this is a case of old dogs being unwilling >>>> to learn new tricks. >>>> >>>> Other things that come to mind is that fpm is grossly misconfigured - >>>> perhaps they allocated insufficient memory to it? Or are running it on >>>> another machine that has a faulty network connection between them? Or >>>> possibly the server pool is smaller than Apache's server pool, causing >>>> too much thrashing. (See the pm.min_spare_servers and so on) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> From: William A Rowe Jr <wrowe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> <mailto:wrowe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>> Reply-To: "users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" >>>>> <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>> Date: Saturday, January 9, 2016 1:58 PM >>>>> To: "users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>" >>>>> <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>> Subject: Re: Circumstances when mod_php would run faster >>>>> than PHP-FPM? >>>>> >>>>> Mod_proxy_fcgi + php-fpm or mod_fcgid with php fcgi sapi should both >>>>> be >>>>> equivalent when tuned correctly. >>>>> >>>>> Your only option for running php in process efficiently is to use the >>>>> non-threadsafe php in the httpd preform module. Your only option for >>>>> running httpd efficiently is the event, or at least the worker mpm. >>>>> >>>>> Since usually only a subset of the http requests are to a php >>>>> resource, >>>>> the answer is almost always 'no'. >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 8, 2016 16:48, "Rose, John B" <jbrose@xxxxxxx >>>>> <mailto:jbrose@xxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Apache 2.4 >>>>> >>>>> On the same system, same web site, are there circumstances when >>>>> Apache using mod_php would run faster than Apache using PHP-FPM? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@xxxxxxxxxxx - @rbowen >>>> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >> >> >> -- >> Rich Bowen - rbowen@xxxxxxxxxxx - @rbowen >> http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- Rich Bowen - rbowen@xxxxxxxxxxx - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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