The closer MinSpareServers/MaxSpareServers are, the more time Apache needs to spend killing and creating child processes to ensure it stays within that narrow limit On May 3, 2012, at 2:40 PM, P J wrote: > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Alexandr Normuradov <normalex@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > can you please give us the full output from Apaches scoreboard > > service httpd fullstatus > > (yum install elinks) > > you can search/replace any private data, however the rest of the > output is very important for troubleshooting. > > > > Sincerely, > Alexandr Normalex > > > On 3 May 2012 13:29, P J <pauljflists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Pablo Armando <pablo.armando@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > >> > >> What about the number of open file descriptors ?? > >> > >> > >> > >> On 05/03/2012 01:33 PM, Tom Evans wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:20 PM, P J<pauljflists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> .... The fact that your issue seems to happen when you go above 1024 > >>> clients - a magic number - suggests that it may be something programatically > >>> wrong. Hope that helps! > >> > >> > > Thanks for the great feedback everyone, much appreciated. > > > > Tom: I will check the listen queue the next time this happens to see how > > large it is. > > > > Good idea about raising the limit to accommodate the peak as a starting > > point, I've switched it to: > > > > StartServers 500 > > MinSpareServers 1024 > > MaxSpareServers 1024 > > ServerLimit 3500 > > MaxClients 3500 > > MaxRequestsPerChild 4000 > > > > Then in the error log I'm seeing: > > > > [info] server seems busy, (you may need to increase StartServers, or > > Min/MaxSpareServers), spawning 32 children, there are 1003 idle, and 1043 > > total children > > > > How can the "server seems busy" with 1003 idle children? yet it is spawning > > 32 more children? Am I totally missing something obvious here? > > > > Also a great idea to test with the 2.2.22 instead of the OS supplied 2.2.3, > > I will look into that for sure. > > > > Pablo, open file descriptors was originally what I thought the problem was, > > but I raised them from 1024 to 16384 and it made no difference: > > > > cat /proc/$(pidof -s httpd)/limits > > Limit Soft Limit Hard Limit Units > > > > Max cpu time unlimited unlimited seconds > > > > Max file size unlimited unlimited bytes > > > > Max data size unlimited unlimited bytes > > > > Max stack size 10485760 unlimited bytes > > > > Max core file size 0 unlimited bytes > > > > Max resident set unlimited unlimited bytes > > > > Max processes 55296 55296 > > processes > > Max open files 16384 16384 files > > > > Max locked memory 32768 32768 bytes > > > > Max address space unlimited unlimited bytes > > > > Max file locks unlimited unlimited locks > > > > Max pending signals 55296 55296 signals > > > > Max msgqueue size 819200 819200 bytes > > > > Max nice priority 0 0 > > Max realtime priority 0 0 > > > > Thanks again. > > > > -- > > PJ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Alexandr, > > Now I'm testing with: > > <IfModule prefork.c> > StartServers 100 > MinSpareServers 100 > MaxSpareServers 120 > ServerLimit 3500 > MaxClients 3500 > MaxRequestsPerChild 0 > </IfModule> > > I'd like to run service httpd fullstatus when the server is experiencing the peak traffic but it's not able to connect and times out, here is it at the moment: > > Server Version: Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) > > Server Built: Feb 23 2012 21:16:56 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Current Time: Thursday, 03-May-2012 11:36:40 PDT > > Restart Time: Thursday, 03-May-2012 11:33:53 PDT > > Parent Server Generation: 0 > > Server uptime: 2 minutes 47 seconds > > Total accesses: 2347 - Total Traffic: 17.3 MB > > CPU Usage: u6.99 s.61 cu0 cs0 - 4.55% CPU load > > 14.1 requests/sec - 106.3 kB/second - 7.6 kB/request > > 33 requests currently being processed, 124 idle workers > > C_K____K_KC_________________C__K___K__K__C_..___.CK___________KK > ________W_K_____________W_C_K____W____K____.___.________K_C_____ > K_K_______C_CW__.___KKK_____K_____K............................. > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ................................................................ > ............................................ > > Scoreboard Key: > "_" Waiting for Connection, "S" Starting up, "R" Reading Request, > "W" Sending Reply, "K" Keepalive (read), "D" DNS Lookup, > "C" Closing connection, "L" Logging, "G" Gracefully finishing, > "I" Idle cleanup of worker, "." 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