Russell King wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:08:32AM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: >> Ingo Molnar wrote: >> .. >>> This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_, >>> it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for >>> years, in favor of the all-too-easy "open source means many eyeballs and >>> that is our QA" answer, which is a _good_ answer but by far not the most >>> intelligent answer! Today "many eyeballs" is simply not good enough and >>> nature (and other OS projects) will route us around if we dont change. >> .. >> >> QA-101 and "many eyeballs" are not at all in opposition. >> The latter is how we find out about bugs on uncommon hardware, >> and the former is what we need to track them and overall quality. >> >> A HUGE problem I have with current "efforts", is that once someone >> reports a bug, the onus seems to be 99% on the *reporter* to find >> the exact line of code or commit. Ghad what a repressive method. > > 99% on the reporter? Is that why I always try to understand the > reporters problem (*provided* it's in an area I know about) and come > up with a patch to test a theory or fix the issue? .. Same here. I just find it weird that something can be known broken for several -rc* kernels before I happen to install it, discover it's broken on my own machine, and then I track it down, fix it, and submit the patch, generally all within a couple of hours. Where the heck was the dude(ess) that broke it ?? AWOL. And when I receive hostility from the "maintainers" of said code for fixing their bugs, well.. that really motivates me to continue reporting new ones.. > I'm _less_ inclined to provide such a "service" for lazy maintainers > who've moved off into new and wonderfully exciting technologies, to > churn out more patches for me to merge (and eventually provide a free > to them bug fixing service for.) > > That's "less" inclined, not "won't". > _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel
