Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 02:26:05PM -0500, Mark Lord wrote: .. >> If you've been making significant updates to a driver/subsystem, >> and people are reporting that it is now broken for them, > > What are "significant updates"? > > Sometimes one person makes one small patch and this patch contains > a typo. .. Then that person should double check their changes against the problems reported, and re-convince themselves that the breakage wasn't from those. Simple. >> then it's your job to make it right. > > We have some open drivers/ata/ regressions. .. Yup, but they're more specific than just that entire subsystem, and the maintainers are actively pursuing the problems. Exactly what should be happening. > I see some person named "Mark Lord" being responsible for 4 commits. > > What pubishment do you plan for him if 2.6.24 ships with any libata > regressions? .. If the code I'm touching breaks, then I'll fix it ASAP, exactly what the users of that code might expect. >> The reporters can help, >> and many may even git-bisect or send patches. >> But you cannot *expect* or *insist* upon them doing your job. > > Bullshit. > > Bug fixing is not about finding someone to blame, it's about getting the > bug fixed. .. It's not about blame, it's about paying attention to breakages in code that a person claims to be supporting, and then doing their best to resolve the issues. Again, if one has the time to actively write/modify code such that something breaks, then that person should also make time to fix the breakages. > The bug reporter is the person who can reproduce the problem, and if > it's a regression then bisecting is the natural way of getting nearer > at getting it fixed. .. For the third time, no disagreement here. git-bsect can help in many cases, but not in all cases. And it requires a great time commitment from somebody who's system used to work and now doesn't work. The person who broke it has a fair bit of responsibility there, too. cheers _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://mailman.alsa-project.org/mailman/listinfo/alsa-devel