On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Takashi Iwai wrote: > At Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:03:48 +0100, > Martin Habets wrote: > > > > Jaroslav, Takashi, > > > > I'd rather err on being more vebose here. While it is true displaying > > all of them increases the chance of (mostly newbies) picking the wrong > > device, but it also avoids people claiming they do not have those devices. > > Please don't jump to conclusion yet. Whether the default is on or off > is no big deal, indeed. We could add a global option to make the > default on or not, for example. > > The problem is that we're seeing two different things. > > 1. List all devices that are available > > The list contains every single device defined in the config space. > You can pick it up and open it but don't know whether it works and > what is for. It's suitable for tools like aplay that accepts all > configs, but can be confusing for GUI programs. > > 2. List devices that are predefined > > The list contains only devices that are tagged as usable and have > proper descriptions. It's suitable for GUI programs, but some > user-defined definitions or functions may be missing unless you set it > right. > > So, both are designed for different purposes. The current design > doesn't look sufficient for the latter purpose. For example, below is > the output of aplay -L on my machine. If this appears on a selection > list of a GUI program, you would have no clue what to choose. I don't think that most of GUI users will have defined own device names in ~/.asoundrc. So let's concentrate on the standard device list in alsa-lib. Jaroslav ----- Jaroslav Kysela <perex@xxxxxxx> Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer ALSA Project, SUSE Labs ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Alsa-devel mailing list Alsa-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/alsa-devel
