AIRLINE: I recall when I was at America West, the 'Ops' position had the responsibility of the weight and balance and if things went wrong, it was reported that they were legally responsible. But in the Halifax case, yesterday's reports speak about an explosion once the plane was airborne, or what that poor reporting on the CBC's and CNN's part? Also, when working for ATA, my boss said (and I believe) that they know and do a lot. The airport wouldn't move without them. (considering snow plowing, borrowing of equipment, etc.) And they didn't get much for pay and no flight priviledges. Too bad. Mike Burris Cambridge, Mass --- "Fletcher, Robert SPK" <Robert.Fletcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I take it your are/were a load master? I can > remember being a apprentice > loadmaster in training on the old C-124s out of > Donaldson ABF in S.C., what > ever the shipment was, the tie downs and all the > webbing was so tight an nat > could have never gotten through! I am sure the > same thing is true on the > C-5s to Iraq and etc. Are any proceedures different > between civil and > military aircraft in regards to cargos? do we have > any present and former > loadmasters on board this net? Bob > > BOB FLETCHER > US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS > MILITARY DESIGN SECTION > 10th FLOOR S.W. > SACRAMENTO DISTRICT > 1325 J STREET, SACRAMENTO > CALIFORNIA, 95814-2922 > Phone (916) 557-7235 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis W Zeuch [mailto:DZTOPS@xxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 10:21 AM > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [Sky-1] 747F crash Halifax - Star > Report > > > Robert.Fletcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > This is what happened to a cargo bird out of > Mather airport (Sacramento) > > 3-4 > > years ago, they had lifted off the ground, made a > left turn, 180 degrees > and > > went down in a auto wrecking yard next to the > airport (Old AFB), the load > on > > board WAS NOT TIED DOWN ! > > > I recall even in Boston with Swissair--ground > loading and handling was done > by Hudson General--$5.00 an hour East Boston > kids,got NO training and > usually > quit within 6 weeks so no one knew how to do > anything except 2-3 supervisors > covering 35 acft at the same time. I t was up to > people like me to climb > into > the damn thing and double check the locks etc were > in place with all the > pallets > and containers. As everyone trys to save a buck this > can happen very easily > these days...because there is no one left to climb > in and double > check........ > Dennis > _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com