Re: Show Me the black hole

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As you have mentioned, several airlines have tried to use MCI as a hub.  But
USAir(ways) was not one of them.  U never operated MCI as a hub or even a
focus city.


>From: "Shawn P. Stokes"

>At MCI don't forget Eastern, Braniff II, and to some weaker extent
>USAir(ways)
>
>I flew threw MCI once going to and from ICT on US 5 years back.  As Nick
>stated it is designed for O&D and walking right to the gate. As I recall
>the
>security stands were set up for a gate, or a couple of gates at a time, so
>I
>had to exit and enter security just to change planes between DCA and ICT.
>That was 1999 and not too bad, I'd hate to do it today.....
>
>There are I thought 3 different terminals at MCI and WN was in a different
>one.  Maybe the others are laid out better ala DFW with central checkpoints
>for the terminal. I sure hope so.
>
>Shawn
>
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick
>Laflamme
>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 11:08 AM
>To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: Show Me the black hole
>
>At 07:56 AM 9/8/2004 -0700, Clay Wardlow wrote:
> >Why is Missouri such a black hole when it comes to hub operations at MCI
> >or STL?
>
>Wasn't MCI carefully designed to keep all gates near the curb? That's great
>for O&D traffic -- but deadly for hub traffic. DFW has the same design, but
>the train among terminals helps some.
>
> >Aside from TWA/AA and Vanguard, what other airlines have tried to have
> >major operations in the Show Me State? Why did they fail?
>
>Southwest has fairly major activities at STL. They would say that they
>don't have any hubs, but STL might be one of their more-equal non-hubs. I
>don't know how STL compares for LUV with MDW, BNA, PHX, or their other
>non-hubs. But it can't be that bad -- it's not like SFO, which had so many
>weather delays that they abandoned it in favor of OAK and SJC.
>
>Midwest (Express) tried for a while to build up operations at MCI, but I
>haven't paid much attention to them for a while. They seemed to have enough
>troubles besides any complications from trying to squeeze money out of MCI
>-- or Omaha, one of their other experiments outside of MKE.
>
> >Clay - SEA
>
>Nick

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