My original gripe about this union stuff is this: The plane is ready to be cleaned for the next group of pax, the flight crew is ready, and the gate crew is ready to start boarding. Everyone's waiting around for the union people to get there to clean the plane. If the flight crew decides to help out to get the plane out on-time, the union files a grievance because non-union people were doing union work. That makes no sense to me. Zero. Let's all work for the greater good, people. Planes get off on-time helps over-all performance of the company. It's not that hard to figure out. Clay in SEA -----Original Message----- From: Allan9 [mailto:exatc@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Speaking of Unions 3-9-5. ANTICIPATING SEPARATION Takeoff clearance needs not be withheld until prescribed separation exists if there is a reasonable assurance it will exist when the aircraft starts takeoff roll. 3-9-6. SAME RUNWAY SEPARATION Separate a departing aircraft from a preceding departing or arriving aircraft using the same runway by ensuring that it does not begin takeoff roll until: a. The other aircraft has departed and crossed the runway end or turned to avert any conflict. If you can determine distances by reference to suitable landmarks, the other aircraft needs only be airborne if the following minimum distance exists between aircraft: (See FIG 3-9-1 and FIG 3-9-2.) 1. When only Category I aircraft are involved- 3,000 feet. 2. When a Category I aircraft is preceded by a Category II aircraft- 3,000 feet. 3. When either the succeeding or both are Category II aircraft- 4,500 feet. 4. When either is a Category III aircraft- 6,000 feet.