Bob http://airlines.afriqonline.com/airlines/306.htm Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fletcher, Robert SPK" <Robert.Fletcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: Re: One of these long time airlines will no longer exist. Which o ne? > WOW, I did not know there was such a history of Piedmont. I do know they > use to fly Martin 440 trycyle landing gear/ twin engine reciprocal. did > they have any other aircraft of that period (Mid 50s.)? In many ways it > looked like the old AF T-29/C-131 aircraft. I look forward to the history > of the airline, Thanks, Bob > > BOB FLETCHER > US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS > Military Design Section, 10th Floor S.W. > SACRAMENTO DISTRICT, SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA, 95814-2922 > PH. (916) 557-7235 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: S. P. Stokes [mailto:stokess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:40 PM > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: One of these long time airlines will no longer exist. Which > o ne? > > > The Piedmont in the press release is the old Henson. Interesting story > behind Henson. They were an air taxi operator in the 1960's that became > part of what was known as Allegheny Commuter, Allegheny Airlines arm to > serve the smaller airports in the NE after they got rid of the planes that > could serve them. It was one of the first airline/commuter "systems" out > there, far before hubs and deregulation, etc. > > Henson left Allegheny Commuter after sometime, was independent for a while, > then in the early 80's struck an agreement with Piedmont Airlines of > Winston Salem NC to be their commuter airline. Piedmont ended up buying > Henson, the first time a major owned its commuter, and it was named Henson, > the Piedmont Regional Airline. And that was how it stayed. Until August > 5, 1989, when, coming full circle, Henson again became part of what had > been Allegheny, now USAir. Sometime in the 90's Henson asked to change > their name to Piedmont Airlines, and since USAir owned the rights to it, > the did. > > And that is, the rest of the story. > > Good Day! > > Shawn > KDCA > > > > > At 11:21 PM 1/14/2004 +0000, you wrote: > >In addition to what Michael says below, I don't believe the Piedmont of > >USAir is any relation to the real Piedmont that USAir took over. This > >Piedmont is a renamed Allegheny Commuter. Ditto for PSA and Allegheny > >(also owned by USAir) > > > Bob / All: > > > > > > The Piedmont I knew flew from Charlotte, North > > > Carolina into Boston and other areas in the South and > > > Mid-Atlantic in the early 80's. They had B737's and > > > B727's. They were very efficient. Their planes were > > > white a think red trip and bold blue 'Piedmont' > > > letters. This Piedmont was taken over by US Air in > > > the gooble-up days when this business-style was > > > fashionable. I'm sure US Air, in its present state, > > > wishes it hadn't taken them over now. Not that > > > Piedmont was a bad carrier. In fact, Piedmont, > > > service wise and efficiency wise, was much better than > > > US Air. But shortly thereafter, US Airways couldn't > > > digest the financial cost of the acquired carrier, if > > > memory serves. > > > > > > -- Mike Burris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Fletcher, Robert SPK" > > > <Robert.Fletcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Correct me if I an wrong , but; > > > > At one time there was an airline named "Piedmont > > > > Airlines" that flew into > > > > and out of Greenville South Carolina in the 50s. Is > > > > this the SAME airline? > > > > I had been told that it folded and "flew" away in > > > > the 60s. so where am I > > > > wrong? Thanks in advance for the corrected answer > > > > to be coming to this > > > > computer ! Bob > > > > > > > > BOB FLETCHER > > > > US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS > > > > Military Design Section, 10th Floor S.W. > > > > SACRAMENTO DISTRICT, SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA, > > > > 95814-2922 > > > > PH. (916) 557-7235 > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: lafrance@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > [mailto:lafrance@xxxxxxxxxxx] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:40 PM > > > > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: One of these long time airlines will no > > > > longer exist. Which > > > > one? > > > > > > > > > > > > One of these long time airlines will no longer > > > > exist. Which one? > > > > > > > > US Airways to consolidate Allegheny, Piedmont = > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday January 14, 1:45 PM EST = > > > > > > > > > > > > (Updates with expired lease agreements for aircraft, > > > > updates stock price)= > > > > > > > > > > > > By John Crawley > > > > > > > > WASHINGTON, Jan 14 (Reuters) - Struggling US Airways > > > > Group Inc. (UAIR) sa= > > > > id on Wednesday it would consolidate two of its > > > > regional carriers in a mo= > > > > ve to use aircraft more efficiently and save money. > > > > > > > > The No. 7 airline said some jobs would be lost in > > > > the consolidation by th= > > > > e end of March of Allegheny Airlines and Piedmont > > > > Airlines, both wholly o= > > > > wned subsidiaries in the US Airways Express network. > > > > Spokesman David Cast= > > > > elveter said US Airways has yet to determine the > > > > extent of the job losses= > > > > =2E > > > > > > > > US Airways, trying to preserve cash and reduce costs > > > > after emerging from = > > > > bankruptcy protection last March, is also mulling > > > > whether to sell assets = > > > > like its East Coast shuttle to stay viable in the > > > > face of mounting compet= > > > > ition from low-cost carriers. > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > "We have an ongoing review of every aspect of our > > > > business to find ways t= > > > > o operate more efficiently and compete more > > > > effectively, and the consolid= > > > > ation of these two carriers will optimize the assets > > > > of both companies," = > > > > said Bruce Ashby, president of US Airways Express. > > > > > > > > "Turboprop aircraft will still have a role in our > > > > network, but it is inef= > > > > ficient to have two wholly owned Dash-8 (aircraft) > > > > operators with duplica= > > > > tive overhead functions for a shrinking part of the > > > > company," Ashby said.= > > > > > > > > > > > > Allegheny, based in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, > > > > employs 1,400 people while = > > > > Piedmont, operating out of Salisbury, Maryland, has > > > > nearly 2,100 workers.= > > > > > > > > > > > > Castelveter said the move to consolidate the two > > > > companies had been consi= > > > > dered for some time and is based more on plans to > > > > phase out its turboprop= > > > > fleet rather than on mounting financial pressures, > > > > which included a debt= > > > > ratings downgrade last week. > > > > > > > > The airline said that some of Allegheny's aircraft > > > > lease agreements are e= > > > > xpiring and are not being renewed. > > > > > > > > Under the transaction, Piedmont will operate the > > > > entire de Havilland Dash= > > > > -8 turboprop fleet. The two carriers each currently > > > > operate 41 of these a= > > > > ircraft, but US Airways plans to phase them out to > > > > make room for more reg= > > > > ional jets. > > > > > > > > Allegheny serves 30 cities and Piedmont 45. Some of > > > > these locations overl= > > > > ap. > > > > > > > > US Airways Express now includes nine carriers > > > > operating more than 2,000 f= > > > > lights daily. After the Allegheny-Piedmont > > > > consolidation, PSA Airlines an= > > > > d Piedmont will be the two wholly owned US Airways > > > > subsidiaries in the Ex= > > > > press family. > > > > > > > > US Airways was off 20 cents, or 3.77 percent, at > > > > $5.10 a share on the Nas= > > > > daq in afternoon trading. = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =A92003 Reuters Limited. = > > > > > > > > > > > > Roger > > > > EWROPS > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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