WOW, I did not know there was such a history of Piedmont. I do know they use to fly Martin 440 trycyle landing gear/ twin engine reciprocal. did they have any other aircraft of that period (Mid 50s.)? In many ways it looked like the old AF T-29/C-131 aircraft. I look forward to the history of the airline, Thanks, Bob BOB FLETCHER US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS Military Design Section, 10th Floor S.W. SACRAMENTO DISTRICT, SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA, 95814-2922 PH. (916) 557-7235 -----Original Message----- From: S. P. Stokes [mailto:stokess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:40 PM To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: One of these long time airlines will no longer exist. Which o ne? The Piedmont in the press release is the old Henson. Interesting story behind Henson. They were an air taxi operator in the 1960's that became part of what was known as Allegheny Commuter, Allegheny Airlines arm to serve the smaller airports in the NE after they got rid of the planes that could serve them. It was one of the first airline/commuter "systems" out there, far before hubs and deregulation, etc. Henson left Allegheny Commuter after sometime, was independent for a while, then in the early 80's struck an agreement with Piedmont Airlines of Winston Salem NC to be their commuter airline. Piedmont ended up buying Henson, the first time a major owned its commuter, and it was named Henson, the Piedmont Regional Airline. And that was how it stayed. Until August 5, 1989, when, coming full circle, Henson again became part of what had been Allegheny, now USAir. Sometime in the 90's Henson asked to change their name to Piedmont Airlines, and since USAir owned the rights to it, the did. And that is, the rest of the story. Good Day! Shawn KDCA At 11:21 PM 1/14/2004 +0000, you wrote: >In addition to what Michael says below, I don't believe the Piedmont of >USAir is any relation to the real Piedmont that USAir took over. This >Piedmont is a renamed Allegheny Commuter. Ditto for PSA and Allegheny >(also owned by USAir) > > Bob / All: > > > > The Piedmont I knew flew from Charlotte, North > > Carolina into Boston and other areas in the South and > > Mid-Atlantic in the early 80's. They had B737's and > > B727's. They were very efficient. Their planes were > > white a think red trip and bold blue 'Piedmont' > > letters. This Piedmont was taken over by US Air in > > the gooble-up days when this business-style was > > fashionable. I'm sure US Air, in its present state, > > wishes it hadn't taken them over now. Not that > > Piedmont was a bad carrier. In fact, Piedmont, > > service wise and efficiency wise, was much better than > > US Air. But shortly thereafter, US Airways couldn't > > digest the financial cost of the acquired carrier, if > > memory serves. > > > > -- Mike Burris > > > > > > > > > > --- "Fletcher, Robert SPK" > > <Robert.Fletcher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Correct me if I an wrong , but; > > > At one time there was an airline named "Piedmont > > > Airlines" that flew into > > > and out of Greenville South Carolina in the 50s. Is > > > this the SAME airline? > > > I had been told that it folded and "flew" away in > > > the 60s. so where am I > > > wrong? Thanks in advance for the corrected answer > > > to be coming to this > > > computer ! Bob > > > > > > BOB FLETCHER > > > US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS > > > Military Design Section, 10th Floor S.W. > > > SACRAMENTO DISTRICT, SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA, > > > 95814-2922 > > > PH. (916) 557-7235 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: lafrance@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:lafrance@xxxxxxxxxxx] > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 2:40 PM > > > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: One of these long time airlines will no > > > longer exist. Which > > > one? > > > > > > > > > One of these long time airlines will no longer > > > exist. Which one? > > > > > > US Airways to consolidate Allegheny, Piedmont = > > > > > > = > > > > > > = > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > Wednesday January 14, 1:45 PM EST = > > > > > > > > > (Updates with expired lease agreements for aircraft, > > > updates stock price)= > > > > > > > > > By John Crawley > > > > > > WASHINGTON, Jan 14 (Reuters) - Struggling US Airways > > > Group Inc. (UAIR) sa= > > > id on Wednesday it would consolidate two of its > > > regional carriers in a mo= > > > ve to use aircraft more efficiently and save money. > > > > > > The No. 7 airline said some jobs would be lost in > > > the consolidation by th= > > > e end of March of Allegheny Airlines and Piedmont > > > Airlines, both wholly o= > > > wned subsidiaries in the US Airways Express network. > > > Spokesman David Cast= > > > elveter said US Airways has yet to determine the > > > extent of the job losses= > > > =2E > > > > > > US Airways, trying to preserve cash and reduce costs > > > after emerging from = > > > bankruptcy protection last March, is also mulling > > > whether to sell assets = > > > like its East Coast shuttle to stay viable in the > > > face of mounting compet= > > > ition from low-cost carriers. > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > "We have an ongoing review of every aspect of our > > > business to find ways t= > > > o operate more efficiently and compete more > > > effectively, and the consolid= > > > ation of these two carriers will optimize the assets > > > of both companies," = > > > said Bruce Ashby, president of US Airways Express. > > > > > > "Turboprop aircraft will still have a role in our > > > network, but it is inef= > > > ficient to have two wholly owned Dash-8 (aircraft) > > > operators with duplica= > > > tive overhead functions for a shrinking part of the > > > company," Ashby said.= > > > > > > > > > Allegheny, based in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, > > > employs 1,400 people while = > > > Piedmont, operating out of Salisbury, Maryland, has > > > nearly 2,100 workers.= > > > > > > > > > Castelveter said the move to consolidate the two > > > companies had been consi= > > > dered for some time and is based more on plans to > > > phase out its turboprop= > > > fleet rather than on mounting financial pressures, > > > which included a debt= > > > ratings downgrade last week. > > > > > > The airline said that some of Allegheny's aircraft > > > lease agreements are e= > > > xpiring and are not being renewed. > > > > > > Under the transaction, Piedmont will operate the > > > entire de Havilland Dash= > > > -8 turboprop fleet. The two carriers each currently > > > operate 41 of these a= > > > ircraft, but US Airways plans to phase them out to > > > make room for more reg= > > > ional jets. > > > > > > Allegheny serves 30 cities and Piedmont 45. Some of > > > these locations overl= > > > ap. > > > > > > US Airways Express now includes nine carriers > > > operating more than 2,000 f= > > > lights daily. After the Allegheny-Piedmont > > > consolidation, PSA Airlines an= > > > d Piedmont will be the two wholly owned US Airways > > > subsidiaries in the Ex= > > > press family. > > > > > > US Airways was off 20 cents, or 3.77 percent, at > > > $5.10 a share on the Nas= > > > daq in afternoon trading. = > > > > > > > > > > > > =A92003 Reuters Limited. = > > > > > > > > > Roger > > > EWROPS > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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