I wasn't quoting you but rather pointing out that Aloha applied for a SNA/DCA instead of one from LAX because it already operates at 2 nearby airports. Aloha doesn't want to fly to the major airports on the west coast but is flying to the smaller airprots (e.g. OAK, BUR). The fact that a senator's office is nearer to one airport than another should not have any bearing whatsover on route allocation, even though, we do know that the elected officials are not in the business to serve the public but their own greedy needs. When did the feds reject Alaska's and United's bid for a DCA/LAX route? The route was served by TWA then American, although it is now inactive. The LA basin is served by 5 airports (LAX/LGB/ONT/BUR/SNA). In many cases, the route is awarded based on the metro area, not the airport. In my opinion, Aloha is asking for the SNA/DCA not so much for the local traffic but to provide direct service between DCA and Hawaii. Passengers will have the opportunity to use SNA as hub for flights to 3 Hawaiian islands compared to 2 for Burbank. > David, you misquoted me again. I meant that it is strange that the feds would > reject several LAX-DCA aps (most notably UA and AS in the past couple of years) > and Aloha would try to go from SNA. Also, why would they not want to go from > BUR, considering that you have much longer runways and a potentially bigger > cachement area. Also, the Senator's offices in LA are much closer to BUR than > SNA. Anyway, I was just saying that it would be odd to have SNA-DCA service, > and not LAX-DCA service. > > SNA is controlled on a more local level, like LGB, and it is highly noise > sensitive (more so than LGB). Pilots require special training on the procedures > there (the reason only OAK pilots fly out of there for WN) and the runway is > only 5700 feet, so you need something with a lot of get up to have any sort of > range (which is why 757s are popular there, and why TWA had to stop at ONT or > LAX when they flew MD-81 flights to STL. > > <<1. Aloha doesn't fly to LAX. Why open a new station when it already flies > just to the north (BUR) and just to the south (SNA)? > 2. When did Orange County become slot-controlled? If it's slot controlled, it > must be done on a local level like LGB. As far as I know, only ORD, DCA, LGA, > and JFK (? - not sure about the 4th) are slot controlled by the feds>>