David, you misquoted me again. I meant that it is strange that the feds would reject several LAX-DCA aps (most notably UA and AS in the past couple of years) and Aloha would try to go from SNA. Also, why would they not want to go from BUR, considering that you have much longer runways and a potentially bigger cachement area. Also, the Senator's offices in LA are much closer to BUR than SNA. Anyway, I was just saying that it would be odd to have SNA-DCA service, and not LAX-DCA service. SNA is controlled on a more local level, like LGB, and it is highly noise sensitive (more so than LGB). Pilots require special training on the procedures there (the reason only OAK pilots fly out of there for WN) and the runway is only 5700 feet, so you need something with a lot of get up to have any sort of range (which is why 757s are popular there, and why TWA had to stop at ONT or LAX when they flew MD-81 flights to STL. <<1. Aloha doesn't fly to LAX. Why open a new station when it already flies just to the north (BUR) and just to the south (SNA)? 2. When did Orange County become slot-controlled? If it's slot controlled, it must be done on a local level like LGB. As far as I know, only ORD, DCA, LGA, and JFK (? - not sure about the 4th) are slot controlled by the feds>>