In a message dated 9/22/2003 11:17:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mmontano@xxxxxxxxx writes: << But if you want one plane that United always manages to stuff full, it seems to be those 757s. For a 762---88 out of 168 is still about 50%. .. and United is one of those airlines that need like 120% load-factors to make money. Anyone know if UAL is moving a lot of cargo LAX-JFK? It's always been a heavy cargo route... >> I assume that is why they use the 762s instead of the 757s. The 757s hold more and get better mileage, so the only reason to use 762s is cargo. My two cents, but I think it is stupid for airlines to rely on cargo to make money. I thought those days went away with the DC-3!! I think "full service" airlines have relied too much on it, and should instead use cargo as gravy like WN does. Hell, Ryanair does not even carry cargo