Way to go Jos=E9... Especially if one considers that the EMB-145 alone has quite a few versio= ns such as EMB-145LR, EMB-145ER, EMB-145MP, EMB-145EP, EMB-145RS, EMB-145SA, EMB-145XR and EMB-145EU. And the differences cannot be described as minor insofar as an EMB-145SA is very much different from the EMB-145EP... Jackson Flores ----- Original Message ----- From: <B787300@xxxxxxx> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:06 AM Subject: Re: An ERJ here, an EMB there... > Leave it to Marketing to foul everyone up long after the designations w= ere > assigned to each aircraft type. I'm sticking with the type certificate= of > EMB-whatever. > > Jose Prize > Fan of confusion > > In a message dated 8/14/2003 5:05:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > fubar@xxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > Subj: Re: An ERJ here, an EMB there... > > Date: 8/14/2003 5:05:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time > > From: <A HREF=3D"mailto:fubar@xxxxxxxxxx";>fubar@xxxxxxxxxx</A> > > Reply-to: <A HREF=3D"mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> > > To: <A HREF=3D"mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> > > Sent from the Internet > > > > Gentlemen, > > Although the Embraer web site does indeed employ the marketing > > designations ERJ 135, ERJ 140, ERJ 145 and Embraer 170, I do wish to make > > clear that the company designation for these airplanes is EMB-135, EMB-140, > > EMB-145 and EMB-170. It's a pity that I can't attach a page from the pdf. > > file versions of the EMB-135BJ, EMB-145LR and EMB-170 Aircraft Operations > > Manual or Aircraft Flight Manual. But I guess that a visit to the FAA= TC > > page might proveenlightening.... > > > > Moreover, I also wish to point out that Embraer's marketing departmen= t is > > somewhat finnicky when it comes to designating the company's products= . I > > remember quite well for being mildly chastised for writing 'ERJ-145" when > > the correct form is "ERJ 145" as of September of 1999. It's a pity th= at > > marketing and press relations forgot to issue a circular memo... > > > > The 70-seat aircraft's situation is even worse insamuch as it was designated > > by the marketing department as ERJ-170, then ERJ 170 and now the curr= ent > > Embraer 170. However, despite polite entreaties (that later developed into > > dire warnings of coming fire and brimstone), the company's operationa= l > > engineering division and flight test department flipped the proverbia= l > > finger to the marketing department on the EMB- vs ERJ issue. After al= l, who > > is going to foot the bill to change all the Aircraft Flight Manuals, > > Aircraft Operations Manual, Standard Operational Procedures Manuals, > > CD-ROMs, Type Certificates and what have you? > > > > But I suppose that the entire situation is somewhat analagous to the correct > > spelling of the word raccoon. It can be spelled "raccoon" or "racoon"= - but > > I suppose that for that small, tree-climbing, carnivorous mammal it won't > > make the slightest difference if its name carries a "c" or a double "= c". It > > will still remain a small, tree-climbing, carnivorous mammal of the genus > > Procyon lotor. > > > > Hence, I guess that using ERJ or EMB is very much a question of preference. > > > > Jackson Flores > >