I don't know your background so I have no idea of what you do or don't know. Some of your other posts indicate a degree of ignorance of various aspects of airline/aviation matters. You'd be a rare person if you knew everything about aviation. Nobody else on the list does (except Poon, maybe!) Raped in LA eh? You keep banging on about having lower fares, do you know how much it actually costs to fly a seat from A to B. Grant SYD QF Fan of 'fan of' lines. They often reveal more than the posts. Fan of trying to work out why on earth Alireza would want to go to Melbourne in the middle of winter At 05:48 PM 12/08/03 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 8/12/2003 5:13:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >gjmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > ><< All airlines overbook, especially on international services. It's a basic > tenet of revenue management that there will always be no-shos and > cancellations, hence more seats are sold than there are seats on the plane. > 99.99% of the time loads will waste and the plane will depart with everyone > on board. Offloads happen but they are very rare. > >> > >Um, I am on the airline list, I know that. I was just pointing out that QF >was doing well and that is why they still rape us here in LA on the price of >tickets to Australia. I have been involved in an off load. Actually, it >was a >cancelation by US (when they still flew PSA's routes), then an offload from a >UAX Brasilia then back on a later US flight. >Say, Grant, want to send me a cheap F, J or Y class ticket LAX-MEL?