In a message dated 8/12/2003 5:13:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, gjmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: << All airlines overbook, especially on international services. It's a basic tenet of revenue management that there will always be no-shos and cancellations, hence more seats are sold than there are seats on the plane. 99.99% of the time loads will waste and the plane will depart with everyone on board. Offloads happen but they are very rare. >> Um, I am on the airline list, I know that. I was just pointing out that QF was doing well and that is why they still rape us here in LA on the price of tickets to Australia. I have been involved in an off load. Actually, it was a cancelation by US (when they still flew PSA's routes), then an offload from a UAX Brasilia then back on a later US flight. Say, Grant, want to send me a cheap F, J or Y class ticket LAX-MEL?