I doubt it, but still, I think this was systemwide averages not any one specific route. Cargo revenue would have to be pretty good to make up for a over-100% break even load factor. Since UA is losing money, it's not that good... -- David Mueller / HNL dmueller7@xxxxxxxxx http://www.quanterium.com --------- Original Message --------- DATE: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 18:01:14 From: damiross2@xxxxxxxxxxx To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: >Does this factor in cargo? Often a flight may not be profitable with pax only >but if you add cargo, the flight does become profitable. > >David R >> I saw a chart recently, can't remember where, that showed that UA's break-even >> load factor has been over 100%. In other words, with the plane full, they still >> lose money. >> >> -- >> David Mueller / HNL >> dmueller7@xxxxxxxxx >> http://www.quanterium.com >> >> --------- Original Message --------- >> >> DATE: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 03:02:56 >> From: Alireza Alivandivafa <DEmocrat2n@xxxxxxx> >> To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Cc: >> >> >In a message dated 8/1/2003 5:52:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >> >bahadiracuner@xxxxxxxxx writes: >> > >> ><< I was chatting with a United agent yesterday at IAD (had lots of time to >> > kill) >> > and she said that they have a 747-400 run that does IAD-LAX everyday packed >> > to its >> > tail. Wish I was able to get on that instead of being stuck in ORD. >> > >> >> > >> >Since when? Last I checked, UA was only running the 744 LAX-ORD, having >> >replaced the 744 to DEN with a 777. Also, if they are packing 744s to the tail >> on >> >domestic flights, how come they lose so much money? >> > >