Thai's SEA-YYZ service was never a DC-10. It started out as 747 service and then I believe they based an A300 or A310 in SEA to do the shuttle to YYZ and back. Here is a list of other airlines that have or at one point had 5th freedom rights between Canada and the US: Air New Zealand YVR-HNL Air Pacific YVR-HNL British Airways YYZ-JFK British Airways YYZ-DTW Cathay Pacific YVR-SFO Cathay Pacific YVR-JFK El Al YYZ-LAX Malaysia Airlines YVR-EWR Philippine Airlines YVR-SFO Qantas YVR-HNL Qantas YYZ-HNL Royal Jordanian YMX-JFK Varig YYZ-ORD Mark -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matthew Montano Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:12 PM To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: YMX I can attest to Thai's YYZ-SEA flight. Took it myself. Though I recall it being a DC-10.. but I was young and impressionable. It did dump you off as an International arrival at SEA which caused a touch of confusion. Left aisle had english announcements, right was a language other than Thai. Menu and food to match. Never forgot that flight... Matthew On Wednesday, June 4, 2003, at 07:58 PM, JoeThree@xxxxxxx wrote: > Air France did have Chicago-Montreal local traffic rights. Air France > and Air Canada were the only airlines on this route until 1977, when > the US government finally awarded a Chicago-Montreal route to > American. Air France also had > full local traffic rights between Houston and Mexico City. > > Several other airlines have had fifth freedom traffic rights between > the US and Canada over the years. In the early 90's, Thai actually > based an A310 at > Seattle, to fly SEA-Toronto-SEA. The SEA-YYZ flight was timed to > connect with > Thai's SEA-Tokyo-Bangkok 747 flights, and was the only nonstop between > the two > cities at the time. > > Joe Wolf > --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/2003