Excerpt from Cincinatti Newpaper But officials with the Reds and Bengals say that they can't use small planes because of the size of their parties and the extent of their luggage and equipment. This season, the Bengals will charter a Boeing 757 from Delta Air Lines. Reds traveling secretary Gary Wahoff says the team uses a Boeing 727 hired through an unspecified private company, with Delta providing some services for its 40-plus flights a season. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Munoz" <Tyler.Munoz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?) Nobody has mentioned anything about baseball yet. Do any pro sports teams just fly with the majors? -----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:mgreenwood@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:32 PM To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?) I remember when I was young travelling from Vancouver to Toronto and back on a CPAir 727 and it made the trip nonstop. Even with the middle seats not being used, a football team is not that many people and even with coaches and trainers I doubt they would fill a 727. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Bredell" <filmscape@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?) > If a football (professional) uses a 727 to do a trip..they'd better take two! > The size of those guys is way above the weight of an average passenger! And > when they do use 727s as charters the middle seat is never assigned or ocuppied > (that applies to any aircraft they use)! So there goes a 1/3 of capacity! > Secondly if they are crossing the country that's still pushing the envelope. > That's why most will use a DC-10 or a two smaller aircraft. 'All other sports' > teams can get the job done with a single 727 or a 737 with plenty of room to > spare..which contributes to greater range performance! > > Allan9 wrote: > > > David > > Never having been in a B727 cargo bin I'm not certain if for example they > > had a NFL football team (probably worse case scenario) If with all the > > players, coaches and staff,etc. as well as equipment the'd have room for > > additional tanks in the cargo area. > > Al > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <damiross2@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:41 AM > > Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?) > > > > > Beg to differ - if the 727-200 is equiped for executive travel as it would > > be > > > in a sports charter operation, it more than likely has one or more extra > > fuel > > > tanks in the cargo hold. > > > > > > Northeast used 727-100's on its flights from FLL (not MIA) to LAX) which, > > in > > > airline service, has a slightly longer range than the -200. > > > > > > David R > > > > The B727-200 can't reach LAX from Miami if the winds are wrong, and if > > they > > > > can't reach LAX they can't reach SFO and points north (PDX, SEA). > > National > > > > 727's had to stop in Houston for fuel during the DC10 grounding period > > and > > > > Northeast often stopped for fuel on "non-stop" flights, and so did > > Delta. > > > > > > > > Jose Prize > > > > Fan of accuracy > > > > > > >