Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?)

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Excerpt from Cincinatti Newpaper

But officials with the Reds and Bengals say that they can't use small planes
because of the size of their parties and the extent of their luggage and
equipment. This season, the Bengals will charter a Boeing 757 from Delta Air
Lines.
        Reds traveling secretary Gary Wahoff says the team uses a Boeing 727
hired through an unspecified private company, with Delta providing some
services for its 40-plus flights a season.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Munoz" <Tyler.Munoz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?)


Nobody has mentioned anything about baseball yet.  Do any pro sports
teams just fly with the majors?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark [mailto:mgreenwood@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:32 PM
To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?)

I remember when I was young travelling from Vancouver to Toronto and
back on
a CPAir 727 and it made the trip nonstop.  Even with the middle seats
not
being used, a football team is not that many people and even with
coaches
and trainers I doubt they would fill a 727.

Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Bredell" <filmscape@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?)


> If a football (professional) uses a 727 to do a trip..they'd better
take
two!
> The size of those guys is way above the weight of an average
passenger!
And
> when they do use 727s as charters the middle seat is never assigned or
ocuppied
> (that applies to any aircraft they use)! So there goes a 1/3 of
capacity!
> Secondly if they are crossing the country that's still pushing the
envelope.
> That's why most will use a DC-10 or a two smaller aircraft. 'All other
sports'
> teams can get the job done with a single 727 or a 737 with plenty of
room
to
> spare..which contributes to greater range performance!
>
> Allan9 wrote:
>
> > David
> > Never having been in a B727 cargo bin I'm not certain if for example
they
> > had a NFL football team (probably worse case scenario) If with all
the
> > players, coaches and staff,etc. as well as equipment the'd have room
for
> > additional tanks in the cargo area.
> > Al
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <damiross2@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?)
> >
> > > Beg to differ - if the 727-200 is equiped for executive travel as
it
would
> > be
> > > in a sports charter operation, it more than likely has one or more
extra
> > fuel
> > > tanks in the cargo hold.
> > >
> > > Northeast used 727-100's on its flights from FLL (not MIA) to LAX)
which,
> > in
> > > airline service, has a slightly longer range than the -200.
> > >
> > > David R
> > > > The B727-200 can't reach LAX from Miami if the winds are wrong,
and
if
> > they
> > > > can't reach LAX they can't reach SFO and points north (PDX,
SEA).
> > National
> > > > 727's had to stop in Houston for fuel during the DC10 grounding
period
> > and
> > > > Northeast often stopped for fuel on "non-stop" flights, and so
did
> > Delta.
> > > >
> > > > Jose Prize
> > > > Fan of accuracy
> > > >
> > >

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