They should make the Bungles fly on an ERJ-135..it'11 save a lotta money not to mention grief and heartache!!! And you know if the Bungles..er Bengals get a 757....everyone else (in the NFL) is gettig that and bigger! greg Allan9 wrote: > Excerpt from Cincinatti Newpaper > > But officials with the Reds and Bengals say that they can't use small planes > because of the size of their parties and the extent of their luggage and > equipment. This season, the Bengals will charter a Boeing 757 from Delta Air > Lines. > Reds traveling secretary Gary Wahoff says the team uses a Boeing 727 > hired through an unspecified private company, with Delta providing some > services for its 40-plus flights a season. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tyler Munoz" <Tyler.Munoz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:44 PM > Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?) > > Nobody has mentioned anything about baseball yet. Do any pro sports > teams just fly with the majors? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark [mailto:mgreenwood@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 5:32 PM > To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?) > > I remember when I was young travelling from Vancouver to Toronto and > back on > a CPAir 727 and it made the trip nonstop. Even with the middle seats > not > being used, a football team is not that many people and even with > coaches > and trainers I doubt they would fill a 727. > > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Bredell" <filmscape@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:40 PM > Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?) > > > If a football (professional) uses a 727 to do a trip..they'd better > take > two! > > The size of those guys is way above the weight of an average > passenger! > And > > when they do use 727s as charters the middle seat is never assigned or > ocuppied > > (that applies to any aircraft they use)! So there goes a 1/3 of > capacity! > > Secondly if they are crossing the country that's still pushing the > envelope. > > That's why most will use a DC-10 or a two smaller aircraft. 'All other > sports' > > teams can get the job done with a single 727 or a 737 with plenty of > room > to > > spare..which contributes to greater range performance! > > > > Allan9 wrote: > > > > > David > > > Never having been in a B727 cargo bin I'm not certain if for example > they > > > had a NFL football team (probably worse case scenario) If with all > the > > > players, coaches and staff,etc. as well as equipment the'd have room > for > > > additional tanks in the cargo area. > > > Al > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <damiross2@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:41 AM > > > Subject: Re: Sports Charters (was Whose 727?) > > > > > > > Beg to differ - if the 727-200 is equiped for executive travel as > it > would > > > be > > > > in a sports charter operation, it more than likely has one or more > extra > > > fuel > > > > tanks in the cargo hold. > > > > > > > > Northeast used 727-100's on its flights from FLL (not MIA) to LAX) > which, > > > in > > > > airline service, has a slightly longer range than the -200. > > > > > > > > David R > > > > > The B727-200 can't reach LAX from Miami if the winds are wrong, > and > if > > > they > > > > > can't reach LAX they can't reach SFO and points north (PDX, > SEA). > > > National > > > > > 727's had to stop in Houston for fuel during the DC10 grounding > period > > > and > > > > > Northeast often stopped for fuel on "non-stop" flights, and so > did > > > Delta. > > > > > > > > > > Jose Prize > > > > > Fan of accuracy > > > > > > > > >