Shawn, my experience is similar to yours also. I always take my shoes off and put them in the bins. Everythig in my pockets either go to the laptop case, or to the pockets of Boeing flight jacket if I don't carry laptop. BWI, SEA, PHL, PHX, IAD they have all been smooth. I think I went through curbside to the S terminal to the US Airways gate in SEA in about 10-15 mins last Sunday.. It was easy. Once you get used to it, it becomes a second nature and you develop a harmonized way of taking care of things at the security. Laptop out of the case first, then shoes, then jacket type of deal.. BAHA ACUNER - CFI,CFII,MEI www.bahadiracuner.com www.acuwings.com -----Original Message----- From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Shawn P. Stokes Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:56 PM To: AIRLINE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Navigate through that bleeping new airport security I guess I have a simple approach to this: 1. Don't be too dumb 2. There is only so much I'm willing to change, take off, etc. I've accepted the fact that at some point I'm going to set the dam machine off because of a belt or a pair of shoes. And you know, that's just fine. I've seen a couple of slow TSA agents, one I talked to his supervisor, but I've been flying a good bit the last year and I've not seen a lot of problems. Just flow with it. The big thing I don't get from this article is: > Examine your sole. With metal detectors set to be more sensitive than ever,= > =20 > "my dress shoes set off the alarms as I walk through, which means an=20 > extensive search and delay," says frequent flier David Govaker of=20 > Arlington, Va. "I see more and more business travelers wearing old running= > =20 > shoes with their Armani suits to get through security undeterred. Is this a= > =20 > new fashion trend?" extensive search and delay? I went from the United counter at IAD at 0755 and by 0825 I was at the gate, and that included going over to the sniffer machine for my checked bag, and going through the process of being hand checked, shoes and all, and having to catch a tram out to C concourse and walk to the gate. Extensive search and delay? I maybe added 6 or 7 minutes to the time it would have taken me, hell it took me longer waiting to see the UA agent then it did to get to the gate! I've only flown out of a handfull of airports in the last year (DCA, IAD, MCO, DAB, MYR, SEA, and PHL) so maybe I've just been lucky, but I don't see the problem..... Shawn KDCA/KIAD