Roger, I agree wholeheartedly, but I am equally afraid of some DumbAss John Wayne pilot pulling his gun out in the cockpit, showing it off and shooting himself in the foot and thru the fuselage....., Bryant Petitt Cumming, GA --- Roger & Amanda La France <lafrance@verizon.net> wrote: > You know, all we need it to get one stupid > pilot to be in the > crew rest room at the airport and loose his gun or > it get stolen. > Believe me it will happen here in EWR. Next thing > you know all flights > that had left are grounded and all departures stop > till we find that > gun. > > Today, I had a FA get attacked by a pax, the > Capt jumped in and > stopped him. If it escalated further, does the pilot > have the ok to pull > his gun? Now I'm not talking life or death > situation, but the pilot is > not a trained LEO in what to do or how much force he > should use. > > To me it just opens to many Pandora's boxes. > Compare it to a > possible hijacker getting past 100 (more or less) > passengers and into a > locked cockpit (with reinforced doors) after what we > know from what > happened on 9/11. It didn't take long for the heroes > on UAL93 to figure > that out. > > Just my opinion, > Roger > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Airline List > [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of > David Ross > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:32 PM > To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU > Subject: Re: .....and for all these reasons, they > should not carry guns > > > The reason why is because the government, in it's > normal inability to do > anything right, has given so many stupid regulations > regarding the > carriage of guns by pilots. > > Does it make sense to carry a protection device in a > lock box? No! It > should be handy, not locked away. I can see it now. > "Mr. Hijacker, > please wait a moment while I unlock my weapon." > > The TSA also wants gun-carrying pilots to be > interviewed by > psychologists. This is absurd! Let me get this > straight. It's okay for > a pilot to be responsible for hundreds of people and > the safety yet he > can't be trusted with a tool to help prevent those > same passengers from > being in the grips of a terrorist? > > Like many government agencies, the TSA is led by > totally incompetent > people. Want to know the difference between TSA and > the Boy Scouts? The > Boy Scouts have adult leadership. > > David R > http://home.attbi.com/~damiross/airlines.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <lafrance@verizon.net> > To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:19 PM > Subject: [AIRLINE] .....and for all these reasons, > they should not carry > guns > > > > ...and for all these reasons, pilots should not > carry guns. It puts > > the > whole airport at risk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ALPA Critical of TSA Rule for Pilots Carrying > Firearms > > > > > > WASHINGTON, Feb. 26 /PRNewswire/ -- The head > of the nation's > > largest > pilot > > union has told the Transportation Security > Administration that the new > rule > > governing how armed pilots would carry their > firearms creates more > problems > > than it solves. > snip---snip--- > > The TSA rule also apparently violates a > specific provision in the > > law > that > > created the FFDO program, requiring training "to > ensure that the > > officer maintains exclusive control over the > officer's firearm at all > > times ... " The TSA rule would require an FFDO > pilot who is flying as > > a passenger (deadheading or commuting) to have the > weapon stowed in > > the cargo hold -- where it would not be under the > officer's control. > > TSA has indicated that it will review the > program after the > > initial > class > > of 48 pilot applicants has been trained and > deployed and make any > necessary > > improvements. We are hopeful that by that point > the TSA will realize > > that > the > > lock-box option is seriously flawed. Failing > that, because of the > > many concerns over this procedure, ALPA will > pursue all options, up to > > > and including legal and/or legislative action, to > correct this > > problem. > > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/