Roger, They may not be a LEO (take it this means law enforcement officer) BUT they will undergo weapons training. They will also be "deputized" a federal flight deck officer David R. http://home.attbi.com/~damiross http://www.secure-skies.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger & Amanda La France" <lafrance@verizon.net> To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [AIRLINE] .....and for all these reasons, they should not carry guns > You know, all we need it to get one stupid pilot to be in the > crew rest room at the airport and loose his gun or it get stolen. > Believe me it will happen here in EWR. Next thing you know all flights > that had left are grounded and all departures stop till we find that > gun. > > Today, I had a FA get attacked by a pax, the Capt jumped in and > stopped him. If it escalated further, does the pilot have the ok to pull > his gun? Now I'm not talking life or death situation, but the pilot is > not a trained LEO in what to do or how much force he should use. > > To me it just opens to many Pandora's boxes. Compare it to a > possible hijacker getting past 100 (more or less) passengers and into a > locked cockpit (with reinforced doors) after what we know from what > happened on 9/11. It didn't take long for the heroes on UAL93 to figure > that out. > > Just my opinion, > Roger > > -----Original Message----- > From: The Airline List [mailto:AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU] On Behalf Of > David Ross > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:32 PM > To: AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU > Subject: Re: .....and for all these reasons, they should not carry guns > > > The reason why is because the government, in it's normal inability to do > anything right, has given so many stupid regulations regarding the > carriage of guns by pilots. > > Does it make sense to carry a protection device in a lock box? No! It > should be handy, not locked away. I can see it now. "Mr. Hijacker, > please wait a moment while I unlock my weapon." > > The TSA also wants gun-carrying pilots to be interviewed by > psychologists. This is absurd! Let me get this straight. It's okay for > a pilot to be responsible for hundreds of people and the safety yet he > can't be trusted with a tool to help prevent those same passengers from > being in the grips of a terrorist? > > Like many government agencies, the TSA is led by totally incompetent > people. Want to know the difference between TSA and the Boy Scouts? The > Boy Scouts have adult leadership. > > David R > http://home.attbi.com/~damiross/airlines.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <lafrance@verizon.net> > To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:19 PM > Subject: [AIRLINE] .....and for all these reasons, they should not carry > guns > > > > ...and for all these reasons, pilots should not carry guns. It puts > > the > whole airport at risk. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ALPA Critical of TSA Rule for Pilots Carrying Firearms > > > > > > WASHINGTON, Feb. 26 /PRNewswire/ -- The head of the nation's > > largest > pilot > > union has told the Transportation Security Administration that the new > rule > > governing how armed pilots would carry their firearms creates more > problems > > than it solves. > snip---snip--- > > The TSA rule also apparently violates a specific provision in the > > law > that > > created the FFDO program, requiring training "to ensure that the > > officer maintains exclusive control over the officer's firearm at all > > times ... " The TSA rule would require an FFDO pilot who is flying as > > a passenger (deadheading or commuting) to have the weapon stowed in > > the cargo hold -- where it would not be under the officer's control. > > TSA has indicated that it will review the program after the > > initial > class > > of 48 pilot applicants has been trained and deployed and make any > necessary > > improvements. We are hopeful that by that point the TSA will realize > > that > the > > lock-box option is seriously flawed. Failing that, because of the > > many concerns over this procedure, ALPA will pursue all options, up to > > > and including legal and/or legislative action, to correct this > > problem. > > > > >