okay I'm want to do a survey how many people know someone who is still waiting for approval from Gerrt? as I'm thinking of starting my own airline list (on yahoogroups.com) if I can get say 10 I will start a new airline list.. and it will be unmoderated none of this waiting to get approve from someone.. please email directly (mpanitz@juno.com) let me know if you would be interested.. Mark Panitz PS I also want to apologized for the early outburst I had on this list..as well