Thanks for the information on the A340 and ATL-JNB. Are foreign airline flights originating or terminating in the US subject to FAA rules such as those governing ETOPS? I note from other respondents that the acronym will have to be changed if the rule is extended to three and four engine airplanes. (:-)) By the way, is there something corresponding to it relating to single engine planes? Couldn't have applied to Voyager, could it? I guess neither person was a paying passenger in that case. Gerry http://foley.ultinet.net/~gerry/africar/africa.html http://home.columbus.rr.com/gfoley http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/pollock/263/egypt/egypt.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Laflamme" <dplaflamme@alumni.nd.edu> To: <AIRLINE@LISTSERV.CUNY.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:15 AM Subject: Re: FAA amd ETOPs > At 10:53 AM 12/18/2002 -0500, you wrote: > >Do any U.S. airlines fly A340? > > No. > > >Apparently the proposed change of 4-engine ETOPS rules might require > >change of some B747 routes. > > You mean the proposal that three and four-engined jets will also have to > observe the 207 minute rule, I presume. > > >A couple of weeks ago I took the SAA B747-400 non-stop from Atlanta to > >Jo'berg. Does that route keep within the ETOPS distances all the way? > > Time to remind people of gc.kls2.com. :-) > > ATL-JNB is shown as within 180 minute limits, and the proposal is for 207 > minute limits. They'd have to use a slightly longer course at 138 minute > limits (2 hours plus 15%; 207 minutes is 3 hours plus 15%), but that's not > the proposal. > > Nick >