Nick Laflamme wrote: >Time to remind people of gc.kls2.com. :-) >ATL-JNB is shown as within 180 minute limits, and the proposal is for 207 minute limits. They'd have to use a slightly longer course at 138 minute limits (2 hours plus 15%; 207 minutes is 3 hours plus 15%), but that's not the proposal. > The only routes that I can think of that could be affected are the ones between South Africa and Australia. EWR-HKG goes through a tiny bit of 207-forbidden area, but a slight diversion takes care of that. As for the hole in the Eastern Pacific near the Equator, I can't see anything that would be affected, not even QF's proposed SYD-DFW route. I also remember seeing somewhere that an airline applied ETOPS standards to it's non-ETOPS aircraft, and the corresponding increase in the dispatch rate made up for the additional costs of the mx. Can anyone confirm that? Matthew :)